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From: Gregory Heytings via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 43572@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#43572: Feature request: make it possible to choose whether the first lines of the minibuffer should be displayed instead of the last ones
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:40:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2009241822130453.19833@sdf.lonestar.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83imc3tach.fsf@gnu.org>


>> This seems to be a really minor problem.  What kind of problems could 
>> happen because during a recursive edit while icomplete or ido or ... is 
>> active, redisplay is asked to start displaying at BOB?  Do you really 
>> believe this could lead to a non-minor problem?
>
> Yes.  There are third-party packages out there that do unimaginable 
> things when the user is prompted to enter his/her choice of something.
>
> And in any case, we don't want to rely on luck in these matters, IME the 
> Murphy laws are very strong here.
>

I can't believe this, in particular given that the default value of 
enable-recursive-minibuffers is nil.  And in any case I'd say that it's to 
the third-party packages to adapt to changes in Emacs (and I'm sure from 
time to time there are changes here and there that force them to adapt 
their code).

>> Then I wonder why this did not happen earlier (and wonder when it will 
>> happen).  A bug report about this exact problem has already been filed 
>> five years ago (bug#24293).  Five years ago.  And the patch I'm 
>> proposing is less than ten lines long, and would be most welcome today.
>
> It didn't happen for the usual reasons: no one felt motivated enough to 
> sit down and do it.
>
> Can I convince you to try implementing this via text properties?
>

Of course you can.  But only if you promise you will not reject what I do.

>
> The code will be very simple, I promise.
>

In fact, that's not motivating ;-)

>
> And we are here to help if you are unsure how to go about that.
>

Thank you, that's good to know.





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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-22 20:57 bug#43572: Feature request: make it possible to choose whether the first lines of the minibuffer should be displayed instead of the last ones Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 19:15   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 19:37     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 20:15       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 14:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:41           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 15:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 16:09               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 16:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 16:40                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2020-09-24 17:03                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 21:51                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25  6:59                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25  8:34                           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25  9:14                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25 10:14                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25 11:17                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25 11:34                                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 22:59       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25 18:31   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 18:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-23 18:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 23:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24 14:34       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 16:44         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24 16:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 21:59             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28  6:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 13:30                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28 13:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 16:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-02 15:40                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-10-02 16:08                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-02 16:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 16:25                           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-10-02 19:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 21:49                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-29 14:02                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 19:46   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 20:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-23 22:47       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 23:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-23 23:26           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24  2:07             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24  7:45               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 16:26                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24  8:06               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 14:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:52                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 15:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:20     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:27       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 16:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24 16:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 16:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 21:52             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28  6:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 13:24                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28 13:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 16:56                     ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-09-28 15:53                 ` Drew Adams

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