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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org>
Cc: 43572@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#43572: Feature request: make it possible to choose whether the first lines of the minibuffer should be displayed instead of the last ones
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2020 22:30:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83lfgoe88c.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2010021815260453.2859@sdf.lonestar.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Fri, 02 Oct 2020 16:25:05 +0000)

> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2020 16:25:05 +0000
> From: Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org>
> cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 43572@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Your reaction is saddening.  I'm very sorry to read this, but you rejected 
> all my attempts to solve that problem so far, so that's not surprising. 

I rejected what clearly looked like unsafe and unclean design.  Please
respect the opinions of those who have deeper knowledge of Emacs
internals and many years of experience hacking them.  Your insistence
on doing things in sub-optimal ways when much better ways are at hand
makes it hard to discuss these issues with you and arrive at sound
solutions that can be trusted not to produce bugs in the future.

> I'd bet that there are many places in Emacs where similar "quick and 
> dirty" hacks are used.

Actually, no, there aren't.  "Quick and dirty" is okay for rapid
prototyping and presenting a POC, but not for changes that get
admitted into core.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-02 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-22 20:57 bug#43572: Feature request: make it possible to choose whether the first lines of the minibuffer should be displayed instead of the last ones Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 19:15   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 19:37     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 20:15       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 14:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:41           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 15:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 16:09               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 16:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 16:40                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 17:03                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 21:51                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25  6:59                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25  8:34                           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25  9:14                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25 10:14                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25 11:17                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25 11:34                                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 22:59       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25 18:31   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 18:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-23 18:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 23:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24 14:34       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 16:44         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24 16:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 21:59             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28  6:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 13:30                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28 13:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 16:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-02 15:40                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-10-02 16:08                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-02 16:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 16:25                           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-10-02 19:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-10-02 21:49                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-29 14:02                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 19:46   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 20:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-23 22:47       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 23:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-23 23:26           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24  2:07             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24  7:45               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 16:26                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24  8:06               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 14:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:52                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 15:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:20     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:27       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 16:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24 16:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 16:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 21:52             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28  6:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 13:24                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28 13:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 16:56                     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] <<alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2009222215560453.32542@sdf.lonestar.org>
     [not found] ` <<jwvwo0ktlge.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2009232116430453.29439@sdf.lonestar.org>
     [not found]     ` <<834knnuugm.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<jwvimc3p2a0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]         ` <<83h7rnt8s3.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<833633nqru.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]             ` <<jwvwo0e6gcb.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]               ` <<83r1qmmnxu.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-28 15:53                 ` Drew Adams

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