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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org>
Cc: 43572@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#43572: Feature request: make it possible to choose whether the first lines of the minibuffer should be displayed instead of the last ones
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 16:00:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmu1gs20a.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2009232116430453.29439@sdf.lonestar.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Wed, 23 Sep 2020 19:46:18 +0000")

>>    src/emacs -Q --eval '(setq max-mini-window-height 2)' -f icomplete-mode
>>    C-x C-f
>> lisp/progmodes/../progmodes/../progmodes/../progmodes/../progmodes/../progmodes/../progmodes/../progmodes/../progmodes/../
>>
>> where we see the whole of icomplete's overlay rather than seeing the whole
>> of the minibuffer's actual content.
>>
>
> The problem is that such a recipe would only work with a not-too-wide Emacs
> frame and a not-too-small default font.  For example, on my computer, it
> does not demonstrate the problem.

Really?  Despite the `-Q`?  Is it using a proportional font?
How many columns wide is the frame?
Oh, wait, is it because you're running that Emacs session in a tty
rather than in a GUI?

>>> The attached patch does not change the behavior of Emacs in any way,
>>> unless the feature it introduces is used.
>> I see the following potential problem with it: icomplete will likely want
>> to set it globally, but that means it will also affect uses of the mini
>> window where icomplete is not used.  Also, potential other users may
>> encounter similar difficulties.
> No, if you look at the patch its value is reset to nil whenever the
> minibuffer is entered.

That still leaves the non-minibuffer uses of the mini window (i.e. the
echo area).

And of course, that will also result in the use of an incorrect value
when you exit a *nested* minibuffer (unless both minibuffers were using
the same value).

>> I don't have a patch to suggest, but I think ideally, I'd want clients
>> like icomplete to tell the redisplay either something like "please display
>> as much as possible of *this* chunk of text" or maybe "feel free not to
>> display all of this overlay, it's not super important".
>
> Yes, that's the point.  The patch I proposed tells redisplay "please display
> as much as possible of the text between BOB and point", when the current
> behavior tells redisplay "please display as much as possible of the text
> between point and EOB".  Something more fine-grained would of course be
> possible, but I don't think it is a good idea to implement a feature when
> there is no clear need for it.

I think what I was getting at is that this "request" should come from
the minibuffer's text rather than from a variable.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-23 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-22 20:57 bug#43572: Feature request: make it possible to choose whether the first lines of the minibuffer should be displayed instead of the last ones Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 19:15   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 19:37     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 20:15       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 14:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:41           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 15:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 16:09               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 16:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 16:40                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 17:03                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 21:51                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25  6:59                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25  8:34                           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25  9:14                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25 10:14                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25 11:17                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-25 11:34                                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 22:59       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-25 18:31   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 18:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-23 18:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 23:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24 14:34       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 16:44         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24 16:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 21:59             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28  6:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 13:30                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28 13:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 16:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-02 15:40                       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-10-02 16:08                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-02 16:11                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 16:25                           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-10-02 19:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 21:49                               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-29 14:02                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 19:46   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 20:00     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-09-23 22:47       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-23 23:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-23 23:26           ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24  2:07             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24  7:45               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 16:26                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24  8:06               ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 14:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:52                   ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 15:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:20     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 14:27       ` Gregory Heytings via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-24 16:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24 16:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 16:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 21:52             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28  6:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 13:24                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28 13:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 16:56                     ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-09-28 15:53                 ` Drew Adams

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