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From: Sebastian Wiesner <lunaryorn@gmail.com>
To: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: 14704@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:51:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALf2awTR=Vxg9uk65p1AyduGszyo_Y3rJojt8zLcqYwKDFZZgA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAeL0STpMsxKjqQfDF8aq0LicjN_hpj7+8sLYeGLACkt8T9gNQ@mail.gmail.com>

2013/6/24 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>:
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Sebastian Wiesner <lunaryorn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is the 3rd critical package.el bug I discovered within just a week
>> or so.  Don't you test your code?!
>
> If you want well-tested code, stay with Emacs official releases. If
> you compile from trunk, expect breakages, untested code and potential
> data loss. Caveat user.

Who would test your code then before releases if not those who compile
from trunk?  You developers obviously don't…  and what is worse, you
apparently do even *care*.

These three bugs I found are so blatantly obvious and so severe that
even the most sloppy manual testing, let alone unit testing, would
have revealed them, but all you have to say to such a bad failure is
“Boy, this is trunk, go home to mama, and play with old releases”?!

I am sorry that you do not know about CI, unit testing and software
quality, but I do, and thus I am horrified by the neglect and
ignorance you demonstrate in developing one of the most important
tools of my daily work.





  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-24 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-24 15:30 bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-24 15:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-24 17:51   ` Sebastian Wiesner [this message]
2013-06-24 17:56     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-24 18:26       ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-24 18:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 18:57           ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-24 19:20             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 20:02               ` Glenn Morris
2013-06-24 20:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 20:21                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-24 20:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 20:30                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-25 14:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 21:19                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-06-25  2:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25  2:35                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-25 14:39                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 15:50                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-25  6:17                   ` Michael Albinus
2013-06-25 15:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 15:24                       ` Michael Albinus
2013-06-25 16:03                         ` bug#10304: " Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 18:27                           ` bug#10304: display bug (was: bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version) Michael Albinus
2013-06-25 18:58                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 19:13                               ` bug#10304: display bug Michael Albinus
2011-12-15 13:51                                 ` bug#10304: 24.0.92: display but Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala
2011-12-15 13:58                                   ` Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala
2012-01-07  1:20                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-07  8:48                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-26  0:09                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-02  2:36                                       ` bug#10304: 24.0.92: display bug Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-02 18:23                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-02 18:42                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-02 21:42                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2013-01-05  8:38                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-05  8:51                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-05  9:16                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-05  9:17                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-05  9:49                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-05 10:11                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-05 11:29                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-05 11:38                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-05 13:43                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-05 17:36                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-08  5:11                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-08  5:43                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-08 11:19                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-08 21:21                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-08 21:29                                                         ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-08 21:39                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-13 18:08                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-16 15:06                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-14 15:45                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-14 15:56                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 15:57                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-15 15:35                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-15 15:41                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 15:42                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                               ` <m3oarmyoiz.fsf@stories.gnus.org>
2014-12-27 14:20                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-15 23:50                                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-01-17 11:34                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-07  4:31                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 13:06                                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-05-11 15:18                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-27 13:20                                   ` bug#10304: " Michael Albinus
2013-06-27 17:11                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-27 18:25                                       ` Michael Albinus
2013-07-09 10:39                                       ` Michael Albinus
2013-07-09 17:16                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-10 17:04                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-10 18:03                                           ` Michael Albinus
2013-06-24 20:18         ` bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-25  2:11         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-24 18:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 18:40       ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-24 17:39 ` Glenn Morris
2013-06-24 17:52   ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-25 16:27 ` Stefan Monnier

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