From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 49278@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 21:55:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm52gX8NU=APJnVy6kWaEbHMnWNphWMXZWjgQks5JysGf9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr1gkflot.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 9:46 PM Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>
> >> + Lisp mode is the major mode for editing programs written in Common
> >> +Lisp or its ancestor dialects. Its mode command is @kbd{M-x
>
> I think we should remove "or its ancestor dialects" here.
That also works for me, but as you said, it might work reasonably
well for MacLisp etc, too.
> >> (define-derived-mode lisp-mode lisp-data-mode "Lisp"
> >> - "Major mode for editing Lisp code for Lisps other than GNU Emacs Lisp.
> >> + "Major mode for editing Common Lisp code.
> > Here I'd prefer to mention CL without un-mentioning the other Lisps.
> > There's no reason to deny they exist or existed.
>
> The question is to describe what this major mode is designed to do.
>
> People who want to look at Maclisp code (or other defunct dialects) will
> probably want to use `lisp-mode` for the simple reason that Maclisp is
> reasonably close to Common Lisp so it's the closest major mode we have
> to offer, but the user should not expect correct handling of Maclisp in
> those places where it differs from Common Lisp, because `lisp-mode` is
> written specifically for Common Lisp and not for Maclisp: compatibility
> with Maclisp has not been taken into account for more than 20
> years, AFAIK.
Yeah, but fair to say MacLisp hasn't evolved tremendously in
those years (and neither has Common Lisp sadly). So I reckon
lisp-mode wouldn't to a terrible job in most MacLisp programs.
And maybe even SLY and a modern Common Lisp compiler
could probably grok MacLisp or Franz Lisp code given sufficient
hand-holding.
Anyway, I hope the main point is across: remove suggestion
that it may be used to derive modes for _new_ lisps unrelated
to Common Lisp.
--
João Távora
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-29 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-29 18:06 bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp João Távora
2021-06-29 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-29 18:25 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 12:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 12:45 ` João Távora
2021-06-29 20:46 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-29 20:55 ` João Távora [this message]
2021-06-29 22:59 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-30 12:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 13:03 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-30 13:21 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 13:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 13:32 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 13:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 14:32 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-30 14:50 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 15:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 16:02 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-30 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 16:50 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 16:58 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 14:54 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 15:58 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 16:49 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-30 3:50 ` Phil Hagelberg
2021-06-30 9:44 ` João Távora
2021-09-24 23:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-24 23:23 ` João Távora
2021-09-25 0:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-25 1:26 ` bug#49278: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-25 1:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-25 6:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-25 1:13 ` bug#49278: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-25 9:02 ` João Távora
2021-09-25 16:03 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-25 16:43 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-25 17:24 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-27 20:10 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-27 22:05 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-27 22:25 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-27 23:24 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-27 23:36 ` João Távora
2021-09-28 2:17 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-28 2:06 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-28 2:31 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-28 2:52 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-27 14:48 ` Jean Louis
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