From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: "Stefan Kangas" <stefan@marxist.se>,
"João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>,
"49278@debbugs.gnu.org" <49278@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 22:06:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvr1d9zd87.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB5488F39277DEDB206C7C4ABCF3A79@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 27 Sep 2021 23:24:07 +0000")
> No. I was saying that I don't see why we should
> say that "lisp-mode is only for Common Lisp".
AFAIK nobody has suggested to say "only Common Lisp".
The suggested text was:
+ Lisp mode is the major mode for editing programs written in Common
+Lisp or its ancestor dialects. Its mode command is @kbd{M-x
+lisp-mode}. Emacs uses Lisp mode automatically for files whose names
+end in @file{.l}, @file{.lsp}, or @file{.lisp}.
>> No, that's the thing, it's a Common Lisp mode, not just "any Lisp" mode.
> Then call it such, if you're sure it's useful
> only for Common Lisp.
Again, where does that "only" come from? The thing I think we should
say clearly is that it's a major mode for Common Lisp. The current
text:
- Lisp mode is the major mode for editing programs written in
-general-purpose Lisp dialects, such as Common Lisp. Its mode command
is just misleading since you'll probably be quite disappointed if you
try to use it with most other "general-purpose Lisp dialects" (such as
Clojure or Scheme). Among the non-general purpose Lisp languages,
I think it can be tolerably for AutoCAD's Lisp (tho `emacs-lisp-mode`
would probably work about as well), but probably not for DSSSL (and even
less for XSLT, tho whether it'd still qualify as Lisp is not so clear).
>> Why should the name of the major mode be relevant to this discussion?
> Why indeed. `irrelevant-mode'? `mystery-mode'?
> I'd like to call it `fortran-mode', but I guess
> that's out.
The major mode I use for ELisp is called `emacs-lisp-mode`, the major
mode I use for OCaml is `tuareg-mode`, the major mode I use for C is
`sm-c-mode`. The most popular major mode for Perl is arguably
`cperl-mode`. It's common for major modes's names to be related yet not
identical to the language they support.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-28 2:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-29 18:06 bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp João Távora
2021-06-29 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-29 18:25 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 12:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 12:45 ` João Távora
2021-06-29 20:46 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-29 20:55 ` João Távora
2021-06-29 22:59 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-30 12:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 13:03 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-30 13:21 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 13:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 13:32 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 13:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 14:32 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-30 14:50 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 15:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 16:02 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-30 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 16:50 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 16:58 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 14:54 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 15:58 ` João Távora
2021-06-30 16:49 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-06-30 3:50 ` Phil Hagelberg
2021-06-30 9:44 ` João Távora
2021-09-24 23:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-24 23:23 ` João Távora
2021-09-25 0:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-25 1:26 ` bug#49278: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-25 1:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-25 6:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-25 1:13 ` bug#49278: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-25 9:02 ` João Távora
2021-09-25 16:03 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-25 16:43 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-25 17:24 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-27 20:10 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-27 22:05 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-27 22:25 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-27 23:24 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-27 23:36 ` João Távora
2021-09-28 2:17 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-28 2:06 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2021-09-28 2:31 ` Drew Adams
2021-09-28 2:52 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-27 14:48 ` Jean Louis
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