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From: Protesilaos Stavrou <info@protesilaos.com>
To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>
Cc: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com>, 45068@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2021 07:47:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r1kyrtrl.fsf@protesilaos.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o8g2bg89.fsf@tcd.ie> (Basil L. Contovounesios's message of "Mon, 01 Mar 2021 23:34:46 +0000")

On 2021-03-01, 23:34 +0000, "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie> wrote:

> Protesilaos Stavrou <info@protesilaos.com> writes:
>
>> +---
>
> I think this function deserves to be documented under
> (info "(elisp) Custom Themes"), but...
>
>> +** New function 'require-theme'.
>> +This function is used to load a theme or library stored in the
>> +'custom-theme-load-path'.  It is intended to work as a substitute for
>> +'require' in those cases where that cannot be used.
>
> ...after trying for some time, I failed to do so coherently and am now
> confused about the function's implementation and purpose (I'm sorry for
> not raising these points sooner).

No worries.  I will try to asnwer and we can always amend things.

> If require-theme is intended as an alternative to require that searches
> custom-theme-load-path, then why does it sometimes delegate to
> load-theme and prompt the user about unsafe themes?  This mixes
> lower-level library functionality with a higher-level user feature, and
> the only deciding factor between the two is whether foo-theme.el or
> foo.el exists on custom-theme-load-path, which seems a bit opaque.
>
> Wouldn't it be simpler/cleaner if load-theme was used only for the
> foo-theme.el use case, and require-theme only for the foo.el use case?

My idea was that there could be a future scenario where a derivative
theme requires a basis and the two are both declared as 'deftheme'.  So
they would blend together.

Otherwise yes, it would be simpler to keep things separate.

> IOW, what is the use case for (require-theme 'modus-operandi)?  Why not
> just call (load-theme 'modus-operandi) instead, with the added
> flexibility of specifying its optional arguments?  I'm also curious
> about the use case for require-theme's optional second argument.

In my case (require-theme 'modus-operandi) would not be used.  In the
file modus-operandi-theme.el I now have (require 'modus-themes).  The
modus-themes.el is not a 'deftheme' in itself and 'require' cannot find
it unless it is in the load-path.  Emacs' directory etc/themes is not in
the load-path, so (require-theme 'modus-themes) is meant to work around
that constraint.

> Do the Modus themes require the current dual behaviour of require-theme?
> If not, then could require-theme be as simple as the following, or am I
> being naive / missing something?
>
>   (defun require-theme (feature &optional noerror)
>     (let ((load-path (custom-theme--load-path)))
>       (require feature nil noerror)))

No the themes do not need that dual behaviour.  And yes, your version
works and I am happy with it: all I need is a 'require' that reads from
etc/themes.

Perhaps I should attach a preliminary patch with the themes so that you
can inspect it?

> BTW, do we need to warn anywhere that require-theme may unconditionally
> load files from custom-theme-load-path, or somehow protect against this?

That would be consistent with load-theme.

> And does it matter if require-theme loads .elc files, given that its
> purpose is to load supporting non-theme Lisp files?

For this I am not sure.  Whatever you think is appropriate.

-- 
Protesilaos Stavrou
protesilaos.com





  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-02  5:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-06 12:23 bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible) Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-12-08 12:03 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-09 21:58   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-10  7:57     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-12-10  8:25       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-10 11:46         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-12-11  9:37           ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-11 13:21             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-11 13:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 14:16                 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-11 14:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 15:15                     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-11 15:32                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 15:42                         ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 15:53                         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-12-11 18:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 18:56                             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 20:16                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 20:29                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 19:08                             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-11 20:05                               ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 20:14                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 20:21                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-01-25  8:49                                 ` bug#45068: Patch for Modus themes 1.1.1? (was: bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible)) Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-01-25 12:51                                   ` Christopher Dimech
2021-01-25 15:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-25  6:09                                     ` bug#45068: Patch for Modus themes 1.1.1? Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-02-25 14:44                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-27  2:35                                         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-02-27  8:15                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-27  8:53                                             ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-02-28  6:30                                             ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-02-28 11:41                                               ` bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible) Mauro Aranda
2021-02-28 12:45                                                 ` Protesilaos Stavrou
     [not found]                                                   ` <603b9b9d.1c69fb81.f37aa.cb7c@mx.google.com>
2021-02-28 13:56                                                     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-01 14:38                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-01 14:52                                                       ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-01 15:16                                                         ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-01 15:35                                                           ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-01 19:58                                                             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-01 20:06                                                               ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-01 20:03                                                             ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-01 23:34                                                             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-02  5:47                                                               ` Protesilaos Stavrou [this message]
2021-03-02  5:51                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-02 10:35                                                                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-02 10:32                                                                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-02 10:59                                                                   ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-02 11:03                                                                   ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-02 11:38                                                                     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-02 11:56                                                                       ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-03 16:31                                                                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-03 18:06                                                                     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04  2:04                                                                       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-04  4:53                                                                         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04 12:32                                                                     ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-04 14:54                                                                       ` bug#45068: [PATCH] Modus themes 1.2.0 (was: bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible)) Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04 16:53                                                                         ` bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible) Mauro Aranda
2021-03-04 18:41                                                                         ` bug#45068: [PATCH] Modus themes 1.2.0 Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-04 20:57                                                                           ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04 22:06                                                                             ` bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible) Mauro Aranda
2021-03-05  6:34                                                                               ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-05 17:11                                                                                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-05 17:34                                                                                   ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04 22:40                                                                             ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-05  6:07                                                                               ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-05 17:11                                                                             ` bug#45068: [PATCH] Modus themes 1.2.0 Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-05 17:50                                                                               ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-05 22:00                                                                                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-06  5:13                                                                                   ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-06  9:29                                                                                     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-05 21:11                                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-06 13:24                                                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-06 15:22                                                                                 ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-06 18:25                                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-06 18:43                                                                                     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04 15:47                                                                       ` bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible) Basil L. Contovounesios
     [not found]                                                   ` <87lfb8l2wr.fsf@tcd.ie>
2021-02-28 14:13                                                     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
     [not found]                                                     ` <87a6roxou1.fsf@protesilaos.com>
     [not found]                                                       ` <87im6cfcex.fsf@tcd.ie>
2021-02-28 15:57                                                         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-12-11 14:32                   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 16:05                   ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-12-11 16:31                     ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 14:25                 ` Christopher Dimech

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