* bug#25174: C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings
@ 2016-12-11 18:17 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2016-12-13 4:03 ` npostavs
2016-12-13 5:58 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson @ 2016-12-11 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 25174
C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings.
flyspell-mode-map is a variable defined in ‘flyspell.el’.
Its value is (keymap
(3 keymap
(36 . flyspell-correct-word-before-point))
(67108910 . flyspell-auto-correct-word)
(67108908 . flyspell-goto-next-error)
(67108923 . flyspell-auto-correct-previous-word)
(27 keymap
(9 . flyspell-auto-correct-word)))
This variable may be risky if used as a file-local variable.
Documentation:
Minor mode keymap for Flyspell mode--for the whole buffer.
emacs-version "25.1.1"
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2016-12-11 18:17 bug#25174: C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
@ 2016-12-13 4:03 ` npostavs
2016-12-13 5:58 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
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From: npostavs @ 2016-12-13 4:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson; +Cc: 25174
積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes:
> C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar
> bindings.
What do you mean by "now"? It seems to be consistent to as far back as
23.4.
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* bug#25174: C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings
2016-12-11 18:17 bug#25174: C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2016-12-13 4:03 ` npostavs
@ 2016-12-13 5:58 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2019-10-14 19:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson @ 2016-12-13 5:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: npostavs; +Cc: 25174
Well it's bad.
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* bug#25174: C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings
2016-12-13 5:58 ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
@ 2019-10-14 19:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-14 20:09 ` Michael Heerdegen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-10-14 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson; +Cc: 25174, npostavs
積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes:
> Well it's bad.
That's the value of the keymap variable, so I don't see anything to fix here.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#25174: C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings
2019-10-14 19:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2019-10-14 20:09 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-14 20:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2019-10-14 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson, 25174, npostavs
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> That's the value of the keymap variable, so I don't see anything to
> fix here.
But I think the report is about how this value is being printed.
67108908 is not that...informative.
I guess one could teach cl-print to produce a more human readable syntax
for keymaps. That could also be useful for M-:.
Michael.
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* bug#25174: C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings
2019-10-14 20:09 ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2019-10-14 20:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-15 8:31 ` Michael Heerdegen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-10-14 20:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Heerdegen; +Cc: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson, 25174, npostavs
Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> That's the value of the keymap variable, so I don't see anything to
>> fix here.
>
> But I think the report is about how this value is being printed.
> 67108908 is not that...informative.
>
> I guess one could teach cl-print to produce a more human readable syntax
> for keymaps. That could also be useful for M-:.
A keymap is just a list (or vector); C-h v should display it as is.
If a user wants a readable output, there's `C-h b' etc.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#25174: C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings
2019-10-14 20:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2019-10-15 8:31 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-16 1:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2019-10-15 8:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson, 25174, npostavs
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> A keymap is just a list (or vector); C-h v should display it as is.
It would display it "as is", it would just use a syntax like e.g. ?t
instead of 166. How would that be problematic?
Michael.
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* bug#25174: C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings
2019-10-15 8:31 ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2019-10-16 1:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-16 8:56 ` Michael Heerdegen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-10-16 1:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Heerdegen; +Cc: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson, 25174, npostavs
Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> A keymap is just a list (or vector); C-h v should display it as is.
>
> It would display it "as is", it would just use a syntax like e.g. ?t
> instead of 166. How would that be problematic?
I think it just sounds a bit confusing. Would users believe that ?t is
something else than 166 just in a keymap context? And no matter how you
display the keymap in `C-h v', it's going to be pretty incomprehensible.
But there's also a parallel bug report about adding a describe-keymap
command that'll display the keymap in a more sensible fashion (not as a
list/vector at all), and that's probably going to be merged.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#25174: C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings
2019-10-16 1:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2019-10-16 8:56 ` Michael Heerdegen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2019-10-16 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson, 25174, npostavs
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:
>
> > Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> >
> >> A keymap is just a list (or vector); C-h v should display it as is.
> >
> > It would display it "as is", it would just use a syntax like e.g. ?t
> > instead of 166. How would that be problematic?
>
> I think it just sounds a bit confusing. Would users believe that ?t is
> something else than 166 just in a keymap context?
Why would they? This char syntax is widely used.
> And no matter how you display the keymap in `C-h v', it's going to be
> pretty incomprehensible.
We have just very different opinions here I think.
Michael.
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