From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25174: C-h v some keymap now gives some numbers instead of the familiar bindings Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 03:31:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87a7a1pjb6.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87d1gy9vpk.fsf@jidanni.org> <878trk74lw.fsf@jidanni.org> <878spnglld.fsf@gnus.org> <87h84bytq7.fsf@web.de> <874l0bw0h4.fsf@gnus.org> <878spmz9yx.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="90638"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson , 25174@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 16 03:32:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iKYAd-000NSB-Kb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 03:32:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34876 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKYAb-0004iI-Qq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:32:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKYAV-0004fW-Rm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:32:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKYAU-0004NG-Mz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:32:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36226) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKYAU-0004NA-Ji for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKYAU-0001jz-BF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:32:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 01:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25174 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 25174-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25174.15711895116674 (code B ref 25174); Wed, 16 Oct 2019 01:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25174) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2019 01:31:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45047 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKYAJ-0001ja-2j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:31:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.231.51] (port=42826 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iKYAH-0001jS-GH for 25174@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:31:50 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iKYAA-00078V-Am; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 03:31:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878spmz9yx.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Tue, 15 Oct 2019 10:31:02 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:169410 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> A keymap is just a list (or vector); C-h v should display it as is. > > It would display it "as is", it would just use a syntax like e.g. ?t > instead of 166. How would that be problematic? I think it just sounds a bit confusing. Would users believe that ?t is something else than 166 just in a keymap context? And no matter how you display the keymap in `C-h v', it's going to be pretty incomprehensible. But there's also a parallel bug report about adding a describe-keymap command that'll display the keymap in a more sensible fashion (not as a list/vector at all), and that's probably going to be merged. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no