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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: van@scratch.space, 33398@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#33398: 26.1, netbsd-8; Hi Lock Faces, Hi Green B, default setting suggestion
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 23:29:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a7lyi29o.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837eh4gpjd.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 23 Nov 2018 10:35:02 +0200")

>>  (defface hi-pink
>> -  '((((background dark)) (:background "pink" :foreground "black"))
>> -    (t (:background "pink")))
>> +  '((((min-colors 88) (background dark))
>> +     (:background "pink" :foreground "black"))
>> +    (((background dark)) (:background "red" :foreground "black"))
>> +    (((min-colors 88)) (:background "pink"))
>> +    (t (:background "red")))
>>    "Face for hi-lock mode."
>>    :group 'hi-lock-faces)
>
> Thanks for working on this, but unfortunately changing the default
> colors for Emacs faces is not that easy (which is why we do that only
> very rarely).

I understand that face changing is very sensitive area, so I don't insist
on these changes if the result is worse.  What I was trying to do is to
add 2 more default colors: the current 4 is too small number of the default
background colors, so adding 2 colors will at least cover all available
6 non-black-white colors on a 8-color TTY.

> You cannot test your colors in just two points: 8-color TTY and
> 256-color display (you probably used a GUI frame?).  For starters,
> there's the 16-color TTY, where according to my testing your changes
> are for the worse.  And I would also suggest to test with a 88-color
> TTY.  You need to test for both dark and light backgrounds.

I tested these colors with TERM=xterm-256color where running

emacs -Q -nw --color=8 -f list-colors-display

displays a list of 8 colors, good.  But running

emacs -Q -nw --color=16 -f list-colors-display

displays a list of 256 colors, the same number of colors properly displayed by

emacs -Q -nw --color=256 -f list-colors-display

Is this a bug in Emacs?  Could you recommend a better way
to test a 16-color palette on a TTY?

> In general, if the automatic color translation in tty-colors.el does a
> good job (you can test that by specifying the X color and watching the
> result), it is best not to have a special definition for the
> corresponding min-colors.  So, for example, for the new hi-magenta and
> hi-cyan faces you introduce, please see whether you really need the
> definitions for less than 88 colors -- they will only be needed if the
> automatic translation produces unpleasant results.

For the new faces I copied the defface spec conditions from the existing
faces hi-yellow and hi-green that have separate conditions for less than
88 colors.  But we could drop unnecessary conditions here as well.





  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-24 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-15 12:58 bug#33398: 26.1, netbsd-8; Hi Lock Faces, Hi Green B, default setting suggestion Van L
2018-11-15 21:25 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-15 22:13   ` Van L
2018-11-17 20:54     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-19  3:10       ` Van L
2018-11-19 21:58         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-20  4:00           ` Van L
2018-11-20 22:59             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-21 12:23               ` Van L
2018-11-21 22:56                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-22  0:32                   ` Van L
2018-11-22 22:16                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-23  0:56                       ` Van L
2018-11-23  8:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-23 11:22                           ` Van L
2018-11-23 15:54                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-23  8:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-24 21:29                         ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2018-11-25 16:46                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-25 20:25                             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-26 16:01                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-26 23:27                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-27  5:56                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-27 23:49                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-28 23:06                                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-29  7:32                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-29 22:29                                           ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-30  7:16                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-19  0:36                                               ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-19  3:50                                                 ` Van L
2018-12-19 21:37                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-19 15:19                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-19 21:40                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-20  0:16                                                     ` Van L
2018-12-20 16:11                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-20 23:01                                                       ` Juri Linkov

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