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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: van@scratch.space, 33398@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#33398: 26.1, netbsd-8; Hi Lock Faces, Hi Green B, default setting suggestion
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 22:25:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1l0c3be.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837eh1jeak.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 25 Nov 2018 18:46:27 +0200")

>> >>  (defface hi-pink
>> >> -  '((((background dark)) (:background "pink" :foreground "black"))
>> >> -    (t (:background "pink")))
>> >> +  '((((min-colors 88) (background dark))
>> >> +     (:background "pink" :foreground "black"))
>> >> +    (((background dark)) (:background "red" :foreground "black"))
>> >> +    (((min-colors 88)) (:background "pink"))
>> >> +    (t (:background "red")))
>> >>    "Face for hi-lock mode."
>> >>    :group 'hi-lock-faces)
>> >
>> > Thanks for working on this, but unfortunately changing the default
>> > colors for Emacs faces is not that easy (which is why we do that only
>> > very rarely).
>> 
>> I understand that face changing is very sensitive area, so I don't insist
>> on these changes if the result is worse.  What I was trying to do is to
>> add 2 more default colors: the current 4 is too small number of the default
>> background colors, so adding 2 colors will at least cover all available
>> 6 non-black-white colors on a 8-color TTY.
>
> Then I don't understand why you also changed the faces we had
> already.  Leaving them alone will lower the risk that someone will
> become annoyed by the changes.

The problem is that the condition '(t (:background "pink"))' is
automatically translated to "magenta" on a 8-color TTY.  And in the
'hi-blue' face '(t (:background "light blue"))' is translated to "cyan".

So to add a new face with a "blue" background on a 8-color TTY
with the condition '(t (:background "blue"))' we have no suitable name
for a new face, become the most suitable name 'hi-blue' is already
taken by the existing face that is displayed as "cyan".

The same problem is with 'hi-pink' that is currently translated to
"magenta", not to "red" on a 8-color TTY.

>> emacs -Q -nw --color=8 -f list-colors-display
>> 
>> displays a list of 8 colors, good.  But running
>> 
>> emacs -Q -nw --color=16 -f list-colors-display
>> 
>> displays a list of 256 colors, the same number of colors properly displayed by
>> 
>> emacs -Q -nw --color=256 -f list-colors-display
>> 
>> Is this a bug in Emacs?
>
> Not a bug, a subtlety: the only numeric argument you can reliably
> submit to --color= is 8, because it alone has a standard set of
> termcap/terminfo commands to set and reset colors.  Maybe we should
> amend the documentation so that people don't expect other numbers to
> work.

Currently it's documented in (info "(emacs) Colors X")

‘--color=MODE’
...
     ‘NUM’
          ...
          Depending on your terminal’s capabilities, Emacs might be able
          to turn on a color mode for 8, 16, 88, or 256 as the value of NUM.

I guess the key point is "Depending on your terminal’s capabilities".
This might explain why values other than 8 and 256 are not supported.





  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-25 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-15 12:58 bug#33398: 26.1, netbsd-8; Hi Lock Faces, Hi Green B, default setting suggestion Van L
2018-11-15 21:25 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-15 22:13   ` Van L
2018-11-17 20:54     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-19  3:10       ` Van L
2018-11-19 21:58         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-20  4:00           ` Van L
2018-11-20 22:59             ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-21 12:23               ` Van L
2018-11-21 22:56                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-22  0:32                   ` Van L
2018-11-22 22:16                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-23  0:56                       ` Van L
2018-11-23  8:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-23 11:22                           ` Van L
2018-11-23 15:54                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-23  8:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-24 21:29                         ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-25 16:46                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-25 20:25                             ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2018-11-26 16:01                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-26 23:27                                 ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-27  5:56                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-27 23:49                                     ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-28 23:06                                       ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-29  7:32                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-29 22:29                                           ` Juri Linkov
2018-11-30  7:16                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-19  0:36                                               ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-19  3:50                                                 ` Van L
2018-12-19 21:37                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-19 15:19                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-19 21:40                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2018-12-20  0:16                                                     ` Van L
2018-12-20 16:11                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-20 23:01                                                       ` Juri Linkov

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