* bug#60426: 29.0.60; Binding to outline-minor-mode-cycle-map correctly is unintuitive and hard
@ 2022-12-30 11:12 Rah Guzar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-05 17:45 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rah Guzar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2022-12-30 11:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 60426
Dear Emacs maintainers,
I have been using `outline-minor-mode` with `outline-minor-mode-cycle`
set to true. But to make it work I needed to bind `outline-cycle` to
`<tab>` in addition to `TAB` on `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map`.
By default it is only bound to `TAB`. This worked great in Emacs 28
but when I moved to Emacs 29 this resulted in `outline-cycle` bound
to `<tab>` everywhere and not just on outline headings.
Looking around I found that it was because the implementation had
changed, it no longer used `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` as
the value of keymap text property on headings but rather used an
extended menu item. After looking through the source I finally
figured that the way to achieve what I wanted was to bind
`(menu-item "" outline-cycle :filter ,(lambda (cmd) (when (outline-on-heading-p) cmd)))`
to `<tab>`.
I think this is very confusing and is going to lead to some head
scratching for people who might have other keys bound on
`outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` since that map is now the parent
of `outline-minor-mode-map`. I think with the current approach it
will be better to entirely remove `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map`
and bind the extended menu items directly on `outline-minor-mode-map`
(the bindings are actually already on the `outline-minor-mode-map`).
Another way can be to not make `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` make
a parent of `outline-minor-mode-map`, obsolete it and add to its
docstring a description of how to achieve the same effect using
extended menu items.
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* bug#60426: 29.0.60; Binding to outline-minor-mode-cycle-map correctly is unintuitive and hard
2022-12-30 11:12 bug#60426: 29.0.60; Binding to outline-minor-mode-cycle-map correctly is unintuitive and hard Rah Guzar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-01-05 17:45 ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-05 18:28 ` Rah Guzar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2023-01-05 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rah Guzar; +Cc: 60426
> Looking around I found that it was because the implementation had
> changed, it no longer used `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` as
> the value of keymap text property on headings but rather used an
> extended menu item. After looking through the source I finally
> figured that the way to achieve what I wanted was to bind
>
> `(menu-item "" outline-cycle :filter ,(lambda (cmd) (when (outline-on-heading-p) cmd)))`
>
> to `<tab>`.
>
> I think this is very confusing and is going to lead to some head
> scratching for people who might have other keys bound on
> `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` since that map is now the parent
> of `outline-minor-mode-map`. I think with the current approach it
> will be better to entirely remove `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map`
> and bind the extended menu items directly on `outline-minor-mode-map`
> (the bindings are actually already on the `outline-minor-mode-map`).
> Another way can be to not make `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map` make
> a parent of `outline-minor-mode-map`, obsolete it and add to its
> docstring a description of how to achieve the same effect using
> extended menu items.
We expected this change to be backwards-compatible assuming
that users would define keys in outline-minor-mode-cycle-map
using the same helper as is seen in the default definition:
(outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle)
Maybe this requirement should be documented in the docstring
and mentioned in NEWS?
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* bug#60426: 29.0.60; Binding to outline-minor-mode-cycle-map correctly is unintuitive and hard
2023-01-05 17:45 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2023-01-05 18:28 ` Rah Guzar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-10 18:59 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rah Guzar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-01-05 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: Rah Guzar, 60426
Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:
> We expected this change to be backwards-compatible assuming
> that users would define keys in outline-minor-mode-cycle-map
> using the same helper as is seen in the default definition:
>
> (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle)
>
> Maybe this requirement should be documented in the docstring
> and mentioned in NEWS?
I think this is a good idea since people who have already keys bound
on outline-minor-mode-cycle-map are likely to be as surprised as I was.
But I also think that it is more important to mention this in the
docstring for outline-minor-mode-cycle-map. Since its current
docstring "Keymap used by outline-minor-mode-cycle." is misleading in
my opinion, especially since any key there is going to be active
if outline-minor-mode is on, regardless of the value of
`outline-minor-mode-cycle`.
Also I was confused by the two hyphens in the name
outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind and thought that it was a private
function even though in retrospect they are in the wrong place
for it to be private. By the way I also think that the MAP
argument outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind of should be optional.
Thanks!
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* bug#60426: 29.0.60; Binding to outline-minor-mode-cycle-map correctly is unintuitive and hard
2023-01-05 18:28 ` Rah Guzar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-01-10 18:59 ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-11 16:29 ` Rah Guzar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2023-01-10 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rah Guzar; +Cc: 60426
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>> (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle)
>>
>> Maybe this requirement should be documented in the docstring
>> and mentioned in NEWS?
>
> I think this is a good idea since people who have already keys bound
> on outline-minor-mode-cycle-map are likely to be as surprised as I was.
>
> But I also think that it is more important to mention this in the
> docstring for outline-minor-mode-cycle-map. Since its current
> docstring "Keymap used by outline-minor-mode-cycle." is misleading in
> my opinion, especially since any key there is going to be active
> if outline-minor-mode is on, regardless of the value of
> `outline-minor-mode-cycle`.
Thanks for suggestions. The following patch addresses all the points
that have been raised, except obsoleting `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map`.
It's more convenient to bind keys in this map since `outline-minor-mode-map`
is not explicitly defined unlike `outline-mode-map`.
> Also I was confused by the two hyphens in the name
> outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind and thought that it was a private
> function even though in retrospect they are in the wrong place
> for it to be private.
Two hyphens in the name rather indicated that the implementation
is subject to change without notice - an assumption that is true
for internal functions. So now I'm not sure if adding an alias
without two hyphens is worth to do.
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diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS
index a28f5c9a65a..6ae79e6cebc 100644
--- a/etc/NEWS
+++ b/etc/NEWS
@@ -350,6 +350,15 @@ next button, even if the mode has bound it to something else. This
also means that 'TAB' on a button in an 'outline-minor-mode' heading
will move point instead of collapsing the outline.
+---
+** 'outline-minor-mode-cycle-map' is now parent of 'outline-minor-mode'.
+Instead of adding font-lock text property 'keymap' with
+'outline-minor-mode-cycle' on outline headings in 'outline-minor-mode',
+the keymap 'outline-minor-mode-cycle' is now active in the whole buffer.
+But keybindings in 'outline-minor-mode-cycle' are still take effect
+only on outline headings because they are bound with the help of
+'outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind' that checks if point is on a heading.
+
---
** 'Info-default-directory-list' is no longer populated at Emacs startup.
If you have code in your init file that removes directories from
diff --git a/lisp/outline.el b/lisp/outline.el
index 91f6040687b..26e41735a01 100644
--- a/lisp/outline.el
+++ b/lisp/outline.el
@@ -210,7 +210,12 @@ outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter
(defvar outline-minor-mode-cycle)
(defun outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind (map key binding &optional filter)
- (define-key map key
+ "Define KEY as BINDING in MAP using FILTER.
+The key takes effect only on the following conditions:
+`outline-minor-mode-cycle' is non-nil, point is located on the heading line,
+FILTER or `outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter' is nil or returns non-nil.
+The argument MAP is optional and defaults to `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map'."
+ (define-key (or map outline-minor-mode-cycle-map) key
`(menu-item
"" ,binding
;; Filter out specific positions on the heading.
@@ -227,8 +232,16 @@ outline-minor-mode-cycle-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle)
(outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "<backtab>") #'outline-cycle-buffer)
+ (keymap-set map "<left-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle)
+ (keymap-set map "<right-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle)
+ (keymap-set map "<left-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer)
+ (keymap-set map "<right-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer)
map)
- "Keymap used by `outline-minor-mode-cycle'.")
+ "Keymap used as a parent of the `outline-minor-mode' keymap.
+It contains key bindings that can be used to cycle visibility.
+The recommended way to bind keys is with `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind'
+when the key should be enabled only when `outline-minor-mode-cycle' is
+non-nil and point is located on the heading line.")
(defvar outline-mode-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
@@ -518,10 +532,6 @@ outline-minor-mode
:keymap (define-keymap
:parent outline-minor-mode-cycle-map
"<menu-bar>" outline-minor-mode-menu-bar-map
- "<left-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle
- "<right-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle
- "<left-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer
- "<right-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer
(key-description outline-minor-mode-prefix) outline-mode-prefix-map)
(if outline-minor-mode
(progn
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* bug#60426: 29.0.60; Binding to outline-minor-mode-cycle-map correctly is unintuitive and hard
2023-01-10 18:59 ` Juri Linkov
@ 2023-01-11 16:29 ` Rah Guzar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-11 19:38 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rah Guzar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-01-11 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov; +Cc: 60426
Thanks a lot! The patch look good to me. Minor quibbles:
1. I think in the NEWS entry, "font-lock text property 'keymap'" should
probably just be "text property 'keymap'" i.e. why mention font-lock?
2. Since the implementation of `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind` can change,
it is better to change the order of arguments and make `map` an actual
third argument. It is awkward to pass `nil` as the first argument and I
think that way the actual map key is bound to can be treated as an
implementation detail with `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind` the official
way of binding keys on headings.
Thanks again!
Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:
>>> (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle)
>>>
>>> Maybe this requirement should be documented in the docstring
>>> and mentioned in NEWS?
>>
>> I think this is a good idea since people who have already keys bound
>> on outline-minor-mode-cycle-map are likely to be as surprised as I was.
>>
>> But I also think that it is more important to mention this in the
>> docstring for outline-minor-mode-cycle-map. Since its current
>> docstring "Keymap used by outline-minor-mode-cycle." is misleading in
>> my opinion, especially since any key there is going to be active
>> if outline-minor-mode is on, regardless of the value of
>> `outline-minor-mode-cycle`.
>
> Thanks for suggestions. The following patch addresses all the points
> that have been raised, except obsoleting `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map`.
> It's more convenient to bind keys in this map since `outline-minor-mode-map`
> is not explicitly defined unlike `outline-mode-map`.
>
>> Also I was confused by the two hyphens in the name
>> outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind and thought that it was a private
>> function even though in retrospect they are in the wrong place
>> for it to be private.
>
> Two hyphens in the name rather indicated that the implementation
> is subject to change without notice - an assumption that is true
> for internal functions. So now I'm not sure if adding an alias
> without two hyphens is worth to do.
>
> [2. text/x-diff; outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind.patch]
> diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS
> index a28f5c9a65a..6ae79e6cebc 100644
> --- a/etc/NEWS
> +++ b/etc/NEWS
> @@ -350,6 +350,15 @@ next button, even if the mode has bound it to something else. This
> also means that 'TAB' on a button in an 'outline-minor-mode' heading
> will move point instead of collapsing the outline.
>
> +---
> +** 'outline-minor-mode-cycle-map' is now parent of 'outline-minor-mode'.
> +Instead of adding font-lock text property 'keymap' with
> +'outline-minor-mode-cycle' on outline headings in 'outline-minor-mode',
> +the keymap 'outline-minor-mode-cycle' is now active in the whole buffer.
> +But keybindings in 'outline-minor-mode-cycle' are still take effect
> +only on outline headings because they are bound with the help of
> +'outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind' that checks if point is on a heading.
> +
> ---
> ** 'Info-default-directory-list' is no longer populated at Emacs startup.
> If you have code in your init file that removes directories from
> diff --git a/lisp/outline.el b/lisp/outline.el
> index 91f6040687b..26e41735a01 100644
> --- a/lisp/outline.el
> +++ b/lisp/outline.el
> @@ -210,7 +210,12 @@ outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter
>
> (defvar outline-minor-mode-cycle)
> (defun outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind (map key binding &optional filter)
> - (define-key map key
> + "Define KEY as BINDING in MAP using FILTER.
> +The key takes effect only on the following conditions:
> +`outline-minor-mode-cycle' is non-nil, point is located on the heading line,
> +FILTER or `outline-minor-mode-cycle-filter' is nil or returns non-nil.
> +The argument MAP is optional and defaults to `outline-minor-mode-cycle-map'."
> + (define-key (or map outline-minor-mode-cycle-map) key
> `(menu-item
> "" ,binding
> ;; Filter out specific positions on the heading.
> @@ -227,8 +232,16 @@ outline-minor-mode-cycle-map
> (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
> (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "TAB") #'outline-cycle)
> (outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map (kbd "<backtab>") #'outline-cycle-buffer)
> + (keymap-set map "<left-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle)
> + (keymap-set map "<right-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle)
> + (keymap-set map "<left-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer)
> + (keymap-set map "<right-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer)
> map)
> - "Keymap used by `outline-minor-mode-cycle'.")
> + "Keymap used as a parent of the `outline-minor-mode' keymap.
> +It contains key bindings that can be used to cycle visibility.
> +The recommended way to bind keys is with `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind'
> +when the key should be enabled only when `outline-minor-mode-cycle' is
> +non-nil and point is located on the heading line.")
>
> (defvar outline-mode-map
> (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
> @@ -518,10 +532,6 @@ outline-minor-mode
> :keymap (define-keymap
> :parent outline-minor-mode-cycle-map
> "<menu-bar>" outline-minor-mode-menu-bar-map
> - "<left-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle
> - "<right-margin> <mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle
> - "<left-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer
> - "<right-margin> S-<mouse-1>" 'outline-cycle-buffer
> (key-description outline-minor-mode-prefix) outline-mode-prefix-map)
> (if outline-minor-mode
> (progn
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* bug#60426: 29.0.60; Binding to outline-minor-mode-cycle-map correctly is unintuitive and hard
2023-01-11 16:29 ` Rah Guzar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2023-01-11 19:38 ` Juri Linkov
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2023-01-11 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rah Guzar; +Cc: 60426
> 1. I think in the NEWS entry, "font-lock text property 'keymap'" should
> probably just be "text property 'keymap'" i.e. why mention font-lock?
Thanks, now pushed to the emacs-29 branch with these corrections.
> 2. Since the implementation of `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind` can change,
> it is better to change the order of arguments and make `map` an actual
> third argument. It is awkward to pass `nil` as the first argument and I
> think that way the actual map key is bound to can be treated as an
> implementation detail with `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind` the official
> way of binding keys on headings.
Even though it's like an "internal" function, I still hesitate to reorder
its arguments to not break user configs. I'd rather add a new function
without two hyphens as the official way to use it in personal customization:
(defun outline-minor-mode-cycle-bind (key binding &optional filter map)
(outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind map key binding &optional filter)
and declare `outline-minor-mode-cycle--bind` obsolete.
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