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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de, 60587@debbugs.gnu.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#60587: Patch for adding links to symbols' help documentation
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 14:14:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <835ycxjvmc.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB548816D2857B4BB56E16DDC0F3CB9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (message from Drew Adams on Sun, 22 Jan 2023 22:09:28 +0000)

> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> CC: "60587@debbugs.gnu.org" <60587@debbugs.gnu.org>,
>         "monnier@iro.umontreal.ca" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 22:09:28 +0000
> 
> > > Shouldn't I address the concern of Drew, as well?  That a "button" is a
> > > certain technical implementation of linking which might not be known by
>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > the reader.  Maybe a term like "link button" or "link-button" conveys -
> > > at the same time - the well known concept and correct technique,
> > > different from an Info link (or "cross reference")?
> > 
> > I think "button" is problematic, 
> 
> Did you perhaps mean _not_ problematic?

Yes, I don't think "button" is problematic.

> Drew thinks we should use the same standard term we
> use everywhere - including in Info: for users it's a
> link, not a button.

We use "buttons" as well as "hyperlinks".  See, e.g., the node "Mouse
References" in the user manual, which basically describes the facility
Dieter intends to use.

> > If the user types "M-x describe-text-properties RET",
> > will he/she see that there's a button at point?
> 
> Dunno what Dieter's code shows for that.  But this is
> what doing that on an xref link in Info shows:
> 
> There are text properties here:
>   font-lock-face       info-xref
>   fontified            t
>   help-echo            [Show]
>   mouse-face           highlight
> 
> I wouldn't say that a user is told there's a button
> there.

I meant the hyperlinks in the *Help* buffer.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-23 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-05 23:47 bug#60587: 30.0.50; Info pages are lacking links from symbol names to the symbol's help documentation H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-06 19:03 ` bug#60587: Patch for adding links to symbols' " H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-07  7:38   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-08 20:06     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-09 12:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-09 14:25         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-09 20:01         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-13 23:33     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-14  7:12       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-15 12:48         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-17 21:53     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-18 13:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-20 21:09         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-20 21:59           ` Drew Adams
2023-01-20 23:32           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-22 13:00             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-21  8:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-21 20:27             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-22  6:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-22 22:09                 ` Drew Adams
2023-01-23 12:14                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-01-23 16:16                     ` Drew Adams
2023-01-25 21:29             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-25 22:24               ` Drew Adams
2023-01-26 10:29                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26 15:06                   ` Drew Adams
2023-01-26 15:12                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26 15:23                       ` Drew Adams
2023-01-27 21:35                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-27 22:12                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-27 23:09                     ` Drew Adams
2023-01-27 23:13                   ` Drew Adams
2023-01-28  8:11                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 17:30                       ` Drew Adams
2023-02-01 22:09                     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-02  2:30                       ` Drew Adams
2023-02-05  0:48                     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-05  3:54                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-05 13:54                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-06 21:04                           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-12 11:04                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-14 20:56                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-15 22:18                             ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-16  3:08                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-20 23:53                                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-21  2:12                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-01 21:45                                     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-03-11  8:32                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11  9:16                                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-15  5:17                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-15  9:53                             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-15 13:42                               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-26 10:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-27  7:45                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-27  8:11                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-27 22:21                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-28  7:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-01 21:26                 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm

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