From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
"H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de>
Cc: "60587@debbugs.gnu.org" <60587@debbugs.gnu.org>,
"monnier@iro.umontreal.ca" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#60587: Patch for adding links to symbols' help documentation
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 22:09:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB548816D2857B4BB56E16DDC0F3CB9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834jsjkt16.fsf@gnu.org>
> > Shouldn't I address the concern of Drew, as well? That a "button" is a
> > certain technical implementation of linking which might not be known by
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > the reader. Maybe a term like "link button" or "link-button" conveys -
> > at the same time - the well known concept and correct technique,
> > different from an Info link (or "cross reference")?
>
> I think "button" is problematic,
Did you perhaps mean _not_ problematic? I said it's
problematic, and you don't seem to agree with me.
Or maybe you meant only "button" in "link button".
In that case, I agree with you. We should just say
"link".
> and have no idea why Drew thinks we
> should use another term here.
Another term than "button"? Or "link-button"?
Drew thinks we should use the same standard term we
use everywhere - including in Info: for users it's a
link, not a button.
It may be implemented in Elisp by something Elisp
calls a "button" (not a great name, but not important
here) - but that's now what Emacs calls it in
communicating with users. In particular, it's not
how the Info docs refer to it. For users it's a link.
> The code does insert buttons, right?
The code implements links by inserting what Elisp
calls "buttons", yes. Is how the code implements
links what's important here?
> If the user types "M-x describe-text-properties RET",
> will he/she see that there's a button at point?
Dunno what Dieter's code shows for that. But this is
what doing that on an xref link in Info shows:
There are text properties here:
font-lock-face info-xref
fontified t
help-echo [Show]
mouse-face highlight
I wouldn't say that a user is told there's a button
there.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-22 22:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-05 23:47 bug#60587: 30.0.50; Info pages are lacking links from symbol names to the symbol's help documentation H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-06 19:03 ` bug#60587: Patch for adding links to symbols' " H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-07 7:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-08 20:06 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-09 12:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-09 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-09 20:01 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-13 23:33 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-14 7:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-15 12:48 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-17 21:53 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-18 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-20 21:09 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-20 21:59 ` Drew Adams
2023-01-20 23:32 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-22 13:00 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-21 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-21 20:27 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-22 6:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-22 22:09 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2023-01-23 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-23 16:16 ` Drew Adams
2023-01-25 21:29 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-25 22:24 ` Drew Adams
2023-01-26 10:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26 15:06 ` Drew Adams
2023-01-26 15:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26 15:23 ` Drew Adams
2023-01-27 21:35 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-27 22:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-27 23:09 ` Drew Adams
2023-01-27 23:13 ` Drew Adams
2023-01-28 8:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 17:30 ` Drew Adams
2023-02-01 22:09 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-02 2:30 ` Drew Adams
2023-02-05 0:48 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-05 3:54 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-05 13:54 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-06 21:04 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-12 11:04 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-14 20:56 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-15 22:18 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-16 3:08 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-02-20 23:53 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-21 2:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-01 21:45 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-03-11 8:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-11 9:16 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-02-15 5:17 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-15 9:53 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-15 13:42 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-26 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-27 7:45 ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-27 8:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-27 22:21 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2023-01-28 7:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-01 21:26 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
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