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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 50256@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#50256: thing-at-mouse
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 12:24:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831r63v0hb.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <361bb63a-5e29-9785-0785-6c46f6621223@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Sun, 5 Sep 2021 09:50:14 +0200)

> Cc: juri@linkov.net, 50256@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 09:50:14 +0200
> 
>  >>   > That's orthogonal.  (And it seems to issue the warning in an unrelated
>  >>   > case, handled by the 'else' clause?)
>  >>
>  >> Which case?
>  >
>  > This one:
>  >
>  >> +      else
>  >> +	   posint = marker_position (w->pointm);
> 
> You mean when the caller asks for using point in a non-selected window
> that does not show the current buffer.  Why do you think this case is
> unrelated and/or should be handled differently?

I see no reason to display a warning in that case.  It's completely
legitimate; moreover, a non-selected window will almost always display
a buffer that is not the current buffer, and annoying warnings in
those cases will just ... annoy.

>  >> Maybe I have not been making myself clear.  What I would apply is the
>  >> attached (modulo any errors it contains): No change in behavior, just a
>  >> warning in the doc-string and suspicious calls.
>  >
>  > That doesn't fix the problem which started this thread, does it?
> 
> Right.  We have two ways to fix that problem:
> 
> (1) Fix it in a general way.  You don't want to do that because it might
>      harm calls of that function that silently worked until now.
> 
> (2) Fix it by modifying the calls of `pos-visible-in-window-p'.  In that
>      case the warning should help us find the calls that should be fixed.

Once again, the warning is an orthogonal issue.  I'm not opposed to
displaying a warning in cases where the caller might have intended
something else.  But let's please first fix the actual issue that
started this thread, and that wasn't the lack of warning.





  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-05  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-29 17:21 bug#50256: thing-at-mouse Juri Linkov
2021-08-29 20:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-30  7:20   ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-31  0:04     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-31  6:49       ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-31 17:52         ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-01  7:17           ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-01  7:43             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-01  9:18             ` martin rudalics
2021-09-01 12:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 14:25                 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-01 15:59                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 16:21                     ` martin rudalics
2021-09-01 17:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 17:59                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-01 19:23                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02  6:16                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-02  7:21                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02  7:23                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-02  7:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02  6:48                         ` martin rudalics
2021-09-02  7:30                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02  7:32                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-02  7:46                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02  8:54                                 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-02  9:02                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 12:42                                     ` martin rudalics
2021-09-02 13:13                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 14:43                                         ` martin rudalics
2021-09-02 15:58                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-02 18:28                                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-02 18:41                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03  7:40                                                 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-03 11:06                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04  7:34                                                     ` martin rudalics
2021-09-04  8:02                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 11:10                                                         ` martin rudalics
2021-09-04 11:35                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 18:58                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-05  7:50                                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-09-05  7:50                                                             ` martin rudalics
2021-09-05  9:24                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-09-05  9:39                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-05  9:42                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06  8:31                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2021-09-05 16:13                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-05 16:47                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06  8:31                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2021-09-06 10:57                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06 14:08                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2021-09-06 15:43                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06 15:10                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-12 16:32                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-02 18:46                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-09-03  8:10                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-02 15:59                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 15:42               ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-01 19:26                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 12:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 15:44               ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-01 16:12                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 16:25                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-12 17:12         ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-12 17:32       ` Juri Linkov

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