bug#5027: Funny keyboard bahaviour, maybe grab?

bug#5027: Funny keyboard bahaviour, maybe grab?

[Daniel Pfeiffer]

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Hi,

I recently installed Ubuntu Karmic Koala from scratch, putting in a 
recent snapshot of both Emacs and Sawfish.
Since then, whichever I type, Emacs complains that this Sawfish 
window-manager keybinding is undefined.

The key bindings work when any other application is focused, so I 
suspect this is an Emacs problem.  What I don't understand, is that IMHO 
the window manager should take these key events and an application like 
Emacs should never even notice them?  AFAIK, the only exception to this 
rule is if Emacs grabs the keyboard, as it should while prompting for a 
password.

The only way out, seems not to fully maximize emacs, so a thin strip of 
the pager remains, such that I can mouse-click focus away from Emacs, 
before typing my key-combo.  I have a very keyboard-centric setup, and I 
spend more than half of my time in Emacs, so this is a major hassle!

coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn
Daniel Pfeiffer

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bug#5027: Funny keyboard bahaviour, maybe grab?

[Jan Djärv]

Daniel Pfeiffer skrev 2009-11-23 23.32:
> Hi,
>
> I recently installed Ubuntu Karmic Koala from scratch, putting in a
> recent snapshot of both Emacs and Sawfish.
> Since then, whichever I type, Emacs complains that this Sawfish
> window-manager keybinding is undefined.

What keybinding exactly is "this"?

>
> The key bindings work when any other application is focused, so I
> suspect this is an Emacs problem.  What I don't understand, is that IMHO
> the window manager should take these key events and an application like
> Emacs should never even notice them?  AFAIK, the only exception to this
> rule is if Emacs grabs the keyboard, as it should while prompting for a
> password.
>
> The only way out, seems not to fully maximize emacs, so a thin strip of
> the pager remains, such that I can mouse-click focus away from Emacs,
> before typing my key-combo.  I have a very keyboard-centric setup, and I
> spend more than half of my time in Emacs, so this is a major hassle!

Do you have click-to-focus or focus-follows-mouse?
What version of sawfish?

	Jan D.

bug#5027: Funny keyboard bahaviour, maybe grab?

[Jan Djärv]

There has been an answer to this in the swafish list:

> I experience this after I switch keyboard group with "ISO_Next_Group"
> key, and it is not limited to emacs. So I guess it must be Sawfish's
> problem.
> 
> I don't know X and I can't say much, but recently Sawfish has a
> compilation option which drops support of mouse buttons 6-9. It may
> help. (In my case, it doesn't help. The symptom does not seem unique,
> but there're some types.)
> 
> I found by searching through the mailing list archive that you
> suffered from similar problem last year. Sorry that we haven't made
> progress in this area, but we're planning the fix the next year.
> 
> Regards,
> Teika (Teika kazura)

	Jan D.

bug#5027: marked as done (Funny keyboard bahaviour, maybe grab?)

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Hi,

I recently installed Ubuntu Karmic Koala from scratch, putting in a 
recent snapshot of both Emacs and Sawfish.
Since then, whichever I type, Emacs complains that this Sawfish 
window-manager keybinding is undefined.

The key bindings work when any other application is focused, so I 
suspect this is an Emacs problem.  What I don't understand, is that IMHO 
the window manager should take these key events and an application like 
Emacs should never even notice them?  AFAIK, the only exception to this 
rule is if Emacs grabs the keyboard, as it should while prompting for a 
password.

The only way out, seems not to fully maximize emacs, so a thin strip of 
the pager remains, such that I can mouse-click focus away from Emacs, 
before typing my key-combo.  I have a very keyboard-centric setup, and I 
spend more than half of my time in Emacs, so this is a major hassle!

coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn
Daniel Pfeiffer

-- 
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From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
To: occitan@esperanto.org, 5027@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Cc: 5027-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#5027: Funny keyboard bahaviour, maybe grab?
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:40:18 +0100
Message-ID: <4B1000F2.4010403@swipnet.se>

There has been an answer to this in the swafish list:

> I experience this after I switch keyboard group with "ISO_Next_Group"
> key, and it is not limited to emacs. So I guess it must be Sawfish's
> problem.
> 
> I don't know X and I can't say much, but recently Sawfish has a
> compilation option which drops support of mouse buttons 6-9. It may
> help. (In my case, it doesn't help. The symptom does not seem unique,
> but there're some types.)
> 
> I found by searching through the mailing list archive that you
> suffered from similar problem last year. Sorry that we haven't made
> progress in this area, but we're planning the fix the next year.
> 
> Regards,
> Teika (Teika kazura)

	Jan D.