From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (Emacs bug Tracking System) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5027: marked as done (Funny keyboard bahaviour, maybe grab?) 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050705070805000109000105" X-ID: XRnVZoZcQhQ+hlhTukD5eOLOFAO59aYbyG5MSM7F5kNxsBmSAq5m21hfxgU4zVtZcT X-TOI-MSGID: 62bad353-1277-468e-9f82-d88afcdb5392 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050705070805000109000105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by rzlab.ucr.edu id nARGlMjv009524 Hi, I recently installed Ubuntu Karmic Koala from scratch, putting in a=20 recent snapshot of both Emacs and Sawfish. Since then, whichever I type, Emacs complains that this Sawfish=20 window-manager keybinding is undefined. The key bindings work when any other application is focused, so I=20 suspect this is an Emacs problem. What I don't understand, is that IMHO=20 the window manager should take these key events and an application like=20 Emacs should never even notice them? AFAIK, the only exception to this=20 rule is if Emacs grabs the keyboard, as it should while prompting for a=20 password. The only way out, seems not to fully maximize emacs, so a thin strip of=20 the pager remains, such that I can mouse-click focus away from Emacs,=20 before typing my key-combo. I have a very keyboard-centric setup, and I=20 spend more than half of my time in Emacs, so this is a major hassle! coralament / best Gr=C3=B6tens / liebe Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe / best regards / e= lkorajn salutojn Daniel Pfeiffer --=20 lerne / learn / apprends / l=C3=A4r dig / ucz si=C4=99 Esperanto: http://lernu.net / http://ikurso.net --------------050705070805000109000105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by rzlab.ucr.edu id nARGlMjv009524 Hi,

I recently installed Ubuntu Karmic Koala from scratch, putting in a recent snapshot of both Emacs and Sawfish.
Since then, whichever I type, Emacs complains that this Sawfish window-manager keybinding is undefined.

The key bindings work when any other application is focused, so I suspect this is an Emacs problem.=C2=A0 What I don't understand, is that IMHO the window manager should take these key events and an application like Emacs should never even notice them?=C2=A0 AFAIK, the only exception to this rule is if Emac= s grabs the keyboard, as it should while prompting for a password.

The only way out, seems not to fully maximize emacs, so a thin strip of the pager remains, such that I can mouse-click focus away from Emacs, before typing my key-combo.=C2=A0 I have a very keyboard-centric setup, a= nd I spend more than half of my time in Emacs, so this is a major hassle! 
coralament / best Gr=C3=B6tens /=
 liebe Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe / best regards / elkorajn salutojn
Daniel Pfeiffer

--=20
lerne / learn / apprends / l=C3=A4r dig / ucz si=C4=99    Esperanto:
                    http://lernu.net  /  http://ikurso.net
--------------050705070805000109000105-- ------------=_1259340313-9346-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: (at 5027-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Nov 2009 16:40:27 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nARGeP1c009081; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:40:27 -0800 Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1BC01424E62; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:40:19 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsBYAH2PD0tV4S1uPGdsb2JhbACBTIJ6lE2CWQEBAQE3p0qQKYEvgi5UBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,302,1257116400"; d="scan'208";a="8428938" Received: from c-6e2de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.110]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 27 Nov 2009 17:40:19 +0100 Received: from [172.20.199.2] (gaffa [172.20.199.2]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91837FA07B; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:40:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B1000F2.4010403@swipnet.se> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:40:18 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?SmFuIERqw6Rydg==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: occitan@esperanto.org, 5027@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com CC: 5027-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#5027: Funny keyboard bahaviour, maybe grab? References: <4B0B0D66.1040706@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <4B0B0D66.1040706@t-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There has been an answer to this in the swafish list: > I experience this after I switch keyboard group with "ISO_Next_Group" > key, and it is not limited to emacs. So I guess it must be Sawfish's > problem. > > I don't know X and I can't say much, but recently Sawfish has a > compilation option which drops support of mouse buttons 6-9. It may > help. (In my case, it doesn't help. The symptom does not seem unique, > but there're some types.) > > I found by searching through the mailing list archive that you > suffered from similar problem last year. Sorry that we haven't made > progress in this area, but we're planning the fix the next year. > > Regards, > Teika (Teika kazura) Jan D. ------------=_1259340313-9346-0--