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X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:07:30 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:32875 gmane.comp.window-managers.sawfish:6723 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:25230 Archived-At: Daniel Pfeiffer skrev 2009-11-23 23.32: > Hi, > > I recently installed Ubuntu Karmic Koala from scratch, putting in a > recent snapshot of both Emacs and Sawfish. > Since then, whichever I type, Emacs complains that this Sawfish > window-manager keybinding is undefined. What keybinding exactly is "this"? > > The key bindings work when any other application is focused, so I > suspect this is an Emacs problem. What I don't understand, is that IMHO > the window manager should take these key events and an application like > Emacs should never even notice them? AFAIK, the only exception to this > rule is if Emacs grabs the keyboard, as it should while prompting for a > password. > > The only way out, seems not to fully maximize emacs, so a thin strip of > the pager remains, such that I can mouse-click focus away from Emacs, > before typing my key-combo. I have a very keyboard-centric setup, and I > spend more than half of my time in Emacs, so this is a major hassle! Do you have click-to-focus or focus-follows-mouse? What version of sawfish? Jan D.