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From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org-mode exporters licensing
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 19:45:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a8uhv6in.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B62976.3090507@grinta.net>


On 2015-07-27, at 14:52, Daniele Nicolodi <daniele@grinta.net> wrote:

> On 27/07/15 14:42, Greg Troxel wrote:
>> 
>> Daniele Nicolodi <daniele@grinta.net> writes:
>> 
>>> On 27/07/15 13:52, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
>>>> I disagree.  Licensing a tutorial with GPL is a stupid thing to do.
>>>> A tutorial may contain code which people naturally mimic (or even
>>>> copy).  Such things should definitely be in PD.
>> 
>> [many excellent comments.   As a nit, to reuse another's work under the
>> GPL under a BSD license, you need more than them not to object; you
>> need their affirmative permission.   And if much of org is assigned to
>> the FSF, as I believe it is, that means the FSF's permission.  That's a
>> use of resources about something that doesn't really matter much.]
>> 
>> Indeed.  A major point of which Marcin seems unaware is that licensing
>> in a project in is more than a legal matter.  The license terms are a
>> declaration of intent for how the code will be shared, and people
>> contirbute under an expectation that those norms will be followed.
>> 
>> In particular, the GPL is designed to allow sharing only when the
>> recipients receive rights to further share (and more).  In other words,
>> not only is the code Free Software, but any derived works (that are
>> distributed) will also be Free Software.  With a BSD-style license, or
>> PD, derived works may or may not be Free.
>> 
>> Regardless of licensing, you can't make a derived work from copyrighted
>> code and have it be PD.   And as Daniele points out, new works being PD
>> only works in some jurisdictions (hence CC0).
>
> Very good points!

Indeed!

> I really like the "declaration of intent" pint of view.

And I do not.  I suspect that many authors don't care, and use GPL (or
BSD, or other license) just so that they don't have to write a license
themselves.  Of course, this is only my suspicion, and I might be
totally wrong.

> Cheers,
> Daniele

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-27 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-27  8:06 Org-mode exporters licensing Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27  8:16 ` Rasmus
2015-07-27  8:26   ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27  8:35     ` Rasmus
2015-07-27  9:05       ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27  9:46         ` Eric S Fraga
2015-07-27 11:50           ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27  8:42 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-07-27  8:59   ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27  9:31     ` Eric S Fraga
2015-07-27 11:52       ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 12:17         ` Daniele Nicolodi
2015-07-27 12:42           ` Greg Troxel
2015-07-27 12:52             ` Daniele Nicolodi
2015-07-27 17:45               ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2015-08-02 16:54                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-07-27 17:44             ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 17:42           ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 18:02             ` Daniele Nicolodi
2015-07-27 18:20               ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 18:30                 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2015-07-27 18:49                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-28  7:05                     ` Robert Klein
2015-07-27 12:06 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-07-27 12:27   ` Rasmus
2015-07-27 12:25     ` Oleh Krehel
2015-07-27 12:50       ` Daniele Nicolodi
2015-07-27 17:47         ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 17:10 ` Achim Gratz

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