From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marcin Borkowski Subject: Re: Org-mode exporters licensing Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 19:45:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87a8uhv6in.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87io962fdz.fsf@mbork.pl> <87a8uigff8.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87a8ui2cxl.fsf@mbork.pl> <87twsqeyku.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87r3ntvmuq.fsf@mbork.pl> <55B62153.4070904@grinta.net> <55B62976.3090507@grinta.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52358) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJmTC-0007pK-6p for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:45:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJmT7-0006yu-IJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:45:46 -0400 Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([2a01:5e00:2:52::8]:59699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJmT7-0006yK-7M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:45:41 -0400 In-reply-to: <55B62976.3090507@grinta.net> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Greg Troxel , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 2015-07-27, at 14:52, Daniele Nicolodi wrote: > On 27/07/15 14:42, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> Daniele Nicolodi writes: >> >>> On 27/07/15 13:52, Marcin Borkowski wrote: >>>> I disagree. Licensing a tutorial with GPL is a stupid thing to do. >>>> A tutorial may contain code which people naturally mimic (or even >>>> copy). Such things should definitely be in PD. >> >> [many excellent comments. As a nit, to reuse another's work under the >> GPL under a BSD license, you need more than them not to object; you >> need their affirmative permission. And if much of org is assigned to >> the FSF, as I believe it is, that means the FSF's permission. That's a >> use of resources about something that doesn't really matter much.] >> >> Indeed. A major point of which Marcin seems unaware is that licensing >> in a project in is more than a legal matter. The license terms are a >> declaration of intent for how the code will be shared, and people >> contirbute under an expectation that those norms will be followed. >> >> In particular, the GPL is designed to allow sharing only when the >> recipients receive rights to further share (and more). In other words, >> not only is the code Free Software, but any derived works (that are >> distributed) will also be Free Software. With a BSD-style license, or >> PD, derived works may or may not be Free. >> >> Regardless of licensing, you can't make a derived work from copyrighted >> code and have it be PD. And as Daniele points out, new works being PD >> only works in some jurisdictions (hence CC0). > > Very good points! Indeed! > I really like the "declaration of intent" pint of view. And I do not. I suspect that many authors don't care, and use GPL (or BSD, or other license) just so that they don't have to write a license themselves. Of course, this is only my suspicion, and I might be totally wrong. > Cheers, > Daniele Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University