* Effort Estimates @ 2008-07-15 21:52 R C 2008-07-16 1:32 ` Bernt Hansen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: R C @ 2008-07-15 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi, I am new to using org-mode. I have read the section on effort estimates, but I am not quite clear on the implementation. I am particularly interested in using org-mode to compare estimated times to clocked times for tasks, and in getting a summary of the estimated work effort for each day in agenda view. I would appreciate it if anyone using org-mode for these purposes would be willing to provide specifics of their implementation. Thanks. Recif ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: Effort Estimates 2008-07-15 21:52 Effort Estimates R C @ 2008-07-16 1:32 ` Bernt Hansen 2008-07-16 12:13 ` R C 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Bernt Hansen @ 2008-07-16 1:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: recif; +Cc: emacs-orgmode R C <recif@yahoo.com> writes: > Hi, I am new to using org-mode. I have read the section on effort > estimates, but I am not quite clear on the implementation. I am > particularly interested in using org-mode to compare estimated times > to clocked times for tasks, and in getting a summary of the estimated > work effort for each day in agenda view. I would appreciate it if > anyone using org-mode for these purposes would be willing to provide > specifics of their implementation. Thanks. Recif The following article on the mailing list is what got me started with column view. I use it all the time now. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5134 Since then Carsten has added a clock summary to the table so I can quickly get a summary of the tasks, estimated times, and time spent on the project. I clock everything. I use the same column view in all of my org files. I've set this globally in my .emacs as ,----[ .emacs ] | (setq org-global-properties '(("Effort_ALL" . "0 0:10 0:30 1:00 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 6:00 7:00 8:00 16:00 24:00 32:00 40:00 60:00 80:00 120:00"))) | (setq org-columns-default-format "%40ITEM(Task) %17Effort(Estimated Effort){:} %CLOCKSUM") `---- This lets me quickly enter effort values for a subtree. Put the cursor on a task, C-c C-x C-c to enter column mode, move the cursor to the effort column, and enter effort values with S-right, S-left, or e and some value. This creates :PROPERTY: drawers on the fly if required to store the effort amounts. I use column view to look at and compare effort amounts with actual time spent. If I need to save the report permanently I insert a column report with C-u C-c C-x r RET I also use the clock report in the agenda to get a summary for what I've spent time on today. C-c a a R. Okay that's a little white lie. I don't use this key combination anymore because I have it turned on by default so every time my agenda displays the clock report is displayed. ,----[ .emacs ] | (setq org-agenda-start-with-clockreport-mode t) `---- I manually stop and start my clock. I have the following setting to support that mode of operation: ,----[ .emacs ] | (setq org-clock-out-when-done nil) `---- This means I can mark a task DONE and the clock keeps going. With recent changes I can also refile the task with C-c C-w and the clock moves with it which is a great feature. This helps a lot when I accidentally move a task to a DONE todo keyword by mistake and I want to put it back. My clock just keeps running. Hopefully some of this helps. Feel free to ask questions if any of it is confusing. I find the best way to try something out is to create a throw-away org file /tmp and play with the features there. When I'm comfortable with the way things work I add this workflow to my regular org files. Interacting with org seems to be a life-long endeavour for me - I keep tuning things (yes I have an "* ONGOING Org Mode Tuning" task :) which I'm currently clocking while writing up this email. Thanks again for the wonderful tool that is org-mode Carsten and everyone else on the list that has helped to make org-mode what it is today! Best regards, Bernt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: Effort Estimates 2008-07-16 1:32 ` Bernt Hansen @ 2008-07-16 12:13 ` R C 0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: R C @ 2008-07-16 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: emacs-orgmode --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> wrote: > From: Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> > Subject: Re: Effort Estimates > To: recif@yahoo.com > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:32 PM > R C <recif@yahoo.com> writes: > > > Hi, I am new to using org-mode. I have read the > section on effort > > estimates, but I am not quite clear on the > implementation. I am > > particularly interested in using org-mode to compare > estimated times > > to clocked times for tasks, and in getting a summary > of the estimated > > work effort for each day in agenda view. I would > appreciate it if > > anyone using org-mode for these purposes would be > willing to provide > > specifics of their implementation. Thanks. Recif > > The following article on the mailing list is what got me > started with > column view. I use it all the time now. > > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5134 > > Since then Carsten has added a clock summary to the table > so I can > quickly get a summary of the tasks, estimated times, and > time spent on > the project. > > I clock everything. > > I use the same column view in all of my org files. > I've set this > globally in my .emacs as > > ,----[ .emacs ] > | (setq org-global-properties '(("Effort_ALL" > . "0 0:10 0:30 1:00 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 6:00 7:00 8:00 > 16:00 24:00 32:00 40:00 60:00 80:00 120:00"))) > | (setq org-columns-default-format "%40ITEM(Task) > %17Effort(Estimated Effort){:} %CLOCKSUM") > `---- > > This lets me quickly enter effort values for a subtree. > Put the cursor > on a task, C-c C-x C-c to enter column mode, move the > cursor to the > effort column, and enter effort values with S-right, > S-left, or e and > some value. This creates :PROPERTY: drawers on the fly if > required to > store the effort amounts. > > I use column view to look at and compare effort amounts > with actual time > spent. If I need to save the report permanently I insert a > column > report with C-u C-c C-x r RET > > I also use the clock report in the agenda to get a summary > for what I've > spent time on today. C-c a a R. Okay that's a little > white lie. > I don't use this key combination anymore because I have > it turned on by > default so every time my agenda displays the clock report > is displayed. > > ,----[ .emacs ] > | (setq org-agenda-start-with-clockreport-mode t) > `---- > > I manually stop and start my clock. I have the following > setting to > support that mode of operation: > > ,----[ .emacs ] > | (setq org-clock-out-when-done nil) > `---- > > This means I can mark a task DONE and the clock keeps > going. With > recent changes I can also refile the task with C-c C-w and > the clock > moves with it which is a great feature. This helps a lot > when I > accidentally move a task to a DONE todo keyword by mistake > and I want to > put it back. My clock just keeps running. > > Hopefully some of this helps. Feel free to ask questions > if any of it > is confusing. I find the best way to try something out is > to create a > throw-away org file /tmp and play with the features there. > When I'm > comfortable with the way things work I add this workflow to > my regular > org files. > > Interacting with org seems to be a life-long endeavour for > me - I keep > tuning things (yes I have an "* ONGOING Org Mode > Tuning" task :) which > I'm currently clocking while writing up this email. > > Thanks again for the wonderful tool that is org-mode > Carsten and > everyone else on the list that has helped to make org-mode > what it is > today! > > Best regards, > Bernt Hi, This does exactly what I was looking for. I agree with you about org-mode. It provides powerful tools for time-tracking, project-management, information-organization and access, etc., and replaces for me, at least, multiple applications that were difficult to coordinate. Thanks very much for your assistance. Recif ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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