From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: R C Subject: Re: Effort Estimates Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <61185.53405.qm@web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <878ww2k417.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> Reply-To: recif@yahoo.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KJ5sr-0003Sm-DK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:13:25 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KJ5sq-0003SI-Ev for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:13:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54441 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJ5sq-0003SC-Bt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:13:24 -0400 Received: from web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.38.79]:37039) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KJ5sq-0006V0-Q8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:13:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878ww2k417.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bernt Hansen Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Bernt Hansen wrote: > From: Bernt Hansen > Subject: Re: Effort Estimates > To: recif@yahoo.com > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:32 PM > R C writes: > > > Hi, I am new to using org-mode. I have read the > section on effort > > estimates, but I am not quite clear on the > implementation. I am > > particularly interested in using org-mode to compare > estimated times > > to clocked times for tasks, and in getting a summary > of the estimated > > work effort for each day in agenda view. I would > appreciate it if > > anyone using org-mode for these purposes would be > willing to provide > > specifics of their implementation. Thanks. Recif > > The following article on the mailing list is what got me > started with > column view. I use it all the time now. > > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5134 > > Since then Carsten has added a clock summary to the table > so I can > quickly get a summary of the tasks, estimated times, and > time spent on > the project. > > I clock everything. > > I use the same column view in all of my org files. > I've set this > globally in my .emacs as > > ,----[ .emacs ] > | (setq org-global-properties '(("Effort_ALL" > . "0 0:10 0:30 1:00 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 6:00 7:00 8:00 > 16:00 24:00 32:00 40:00 60:00 80:00 120:00"))) > | (setq org-columns-default-format "%40ITEM(Task) > %17Effort(Estimated Effort){:} %CLOCKSUM") > `---- > > This lets me quickly enter effort values for a subtree. > Put the cursor > on a task, C-c C-x C-c to enter column mode, move the > cursor to the > effort column, and enter effort values with S-right, > S-left, or e and > some value. This creates :PROPERTY: drawers on the fly if > required to > store the effort amounts. > > I use column view to look at and compare effort amounts > with actual time > spent. If I need to save the report permanently I insert a > column > report with C-u C-c C-x r RET > > I also use the clock report in the agenda to get a summary > for what I've > spent time on today. C-c a a R. Okay that's a little > white lie. > I don't use this key combination anymore because I have > it turned on by > default so every time my agenda displays the clock report > is displayed. > > ,----[ .emacs ] > | (setq org-agenda-start-with-clockreport-mode t) > `---- > > I manually stop and start my clock. I have the following > setting to > support that mode of operation: > > ,----[ .emacs ] > | (setq org-clock-out-when-done nil) > `---- > > This means I can mark a task DONE and the clock keeps > going. With > recent changes I can also refile the task with C-c C-w and > the clock > moves with it which is a great feature. This helps a lot > when I > accidentally move a task to a DONE todo keyword by mistake > and I want to > put it back. My clock just keeps running. > > Hopefully some of this helps. Feel free to ask questions > if any of it > is confusing. I find the best way to try something out is > to create a > throw-away org file /tmp and play with the features there. > When I'm > comfortable with the way things work I add this workflow to > my regular > org files. > > Interacting with org seems to be a life-long endeavour for > me - I keep > tuning things (yes I have an "* ONGOING Org Mode > Tuning" task :) which > I'm currently clocking while writing up this email. > > Thanks again for the wonderful tool that is org-mode > Carsten and > everyone else on the list that has helped to make org-mode > what it is > today! > > Best regards, > Bernt Hi, This does exactly what I was looking for. I agree with you about org-mode. It provides powerful tools for time-tracking, project-management, information-organization and access, etc., and replaces for me, at least, multiple applications that were difficult to coordinate. Thanks very much for your assistance. Recif