From: Matt Armstrong <marmstrong@google.com>
To: Gaute Hope <eg@gaute.vetsj.com>,
David Bremner <david@tethera.net>,
Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>,
notmuch@notmuchmail.org, Xu Wang <xuwang762@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: find threads where I and Jian participated but not Dave
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:04:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <qf5r2ydxg2i.fsf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1497594312.ahjx44w937.astroid@strange.none>
Gaute Hope <eg@gaute.vetsj.com> writes:
> David Bremner writes on juni 15, 2017 22:20:
>> Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> writes:
>>>
>>> One of my long-standing wishes is to be able to say "show me mails in my
>>> inbox from people who have replied to messages i've sent them".
>>>
>>> This could be re-framed as "show me threads in which i've participated,
>>> where there are some messages flagged with 'inbox'". but generating a
>>> huge list of all threads in which i've participated, just to be able to
>>> do an intersection operation with a (much smaller) list of all threads
>>> that have a message with the inbox flag seems like a pretty gross
>>> inefficiency.
>>
>> At the moment the best we could do is essentially the same algorithm,
>> but in C instead of shell / python. Threads are not documents in the
>> database, so they can't efficiently be searched for. Of course we could
>> change that, but those kind of changes take a fair amount of effort, and
>> some careful design work.
>
> There are probably multiple earlier references to this, but here's one:
>
> id:1471858269.x2m28lgosh.astroid@strange
>
> matching against the whole thread vs the individual messages would be
> very useful!
For what it is worth, I've found this idea from Daniel intriguing and
pretty useful in practice:
"show me threads in which i've participated, where there are some
messages flagged with 'inbox'"
I implement it like this in my post-new hook:
# All messages in threads in which I participate get tag:participated
notmuch search --output=threads from:marmstrong | \
sed -e 's,^,+participated -- ,' | \
notmuch tag --batch
On my database the query takes about two seconds to run, and lets me to
searches like "tag:inbox and tag:participated". The set of threads
found is typically a subset of "tag:inbox and to:marmstrong", but not
always, and I now have two canned "inbox" searches:
"participated" -> "tag:inbox and tag:participated"
"me" -> "tag:inbox and to:marmstrong and not tag:participated"
The "me" search tends to be new stuff, bot-generated notifications, and
such. The "participated" is typically active conversations and stuff
I've already engaged with, or initiated myself.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-21 20:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-09 21:55 find threads where I and Jian participated but not Dave Xu Wang
2017-06-13 15:57 ` Xu Wang
2017-06-13 23:31 ` David Bremner
2017-06-14 0:24 ` Xu Wang
2017-06-14 3:32 ` Brian Sniffen
2017-06-15 17:54 ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-06-15 20:20 ` David Bremner
2017-06-16 1:07 ` Matt Armstrong
2017-06-16 6:28 ` Gaute Hope
2017-06-21 20:04 ` Matt Armstrong [this message]
2017-06-21 21:30 ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-06-22 6:08 ` Gaute Hope
2017-06-22 6:22 ` Gaute Hope
2017-06-23 0:00 ` Matt Armstrong
2017-06-25 15:46 ` finding incoming messages in threads in which i've participated [was: Re: find threads where I and Jian participated but not Dave] Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-06-25 17:14 ` David Bremner
2017-06-26 20:49 ` Matt Armstrong
2017-06-26 23:09 ` David Bremner
2017-08-20 13:35 ` Jani Nikula
2017-08-20 13:48 ` Jani Nikula
2017-08-20 21:32 ` [PATCH] WIP: add thread subqueries David Bremner
2017-08-21 1:35 ` David Bremner
2017-09-07 17:47 ` Gaute Hope
2017-09-07 18:51 ` David Bremner
2017-06-25 17:40 ` finding incoming messages in threads in which i've participated [was: Re: find threads where I and Jian participated but not Dave] Brian Sniffen
2017-06-26 20:54 ` Matt Armstrong
2017-06-22 20:15 ` find threads where I and Jian participated but not Dave Matt Armstrong
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