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From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>
To: Matt Armstrong <marmstrong@google.com>,
	Gaute Hope <eg@gaute.vetsj.com>,
	David Bremner <david@tethera.net>,
	notmuch@notmuchmail.org, Xu Wang <xuwang762@gmail.com>
Subject: finding incoming messages in threads in which i've participated [was: Re: find threads where I and Jian participated but not Dave]
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 11:46:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87efu8t6ia.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <qf5wp83wp1h.fsf@google.com>

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Hey all--

I really appreciate the thought and experimentation and research that's
gone into this thread!

On Thu 2017-06-22 17:00:58 -0700, Matt Armstrong wrote:
> # All threads in which I participate get tag:participated
> #  1) Find all threads with a message tagged new
> #     (finding all 'today' messages helps during testing,
> #     but isn't necessary)
> #  2) Run through "xargs -s 2048 echo" to to group threads
> #     lines of about 2K in size.
> #  3) For each line (2) produces, narrow the threads to
> #     those containing a message from me.
> #  4) For each such thread, tag every message with +participated.
> notmuch search --output=threads tag:new OR date:today | \
>   xargs -s 2048 echo | \
>   xargs -I '{}' notmuch search \
>   --output=threads from:marmstrong AND \( '{}' \) | \
>   sed -e 's,^,+participated -- ,' | \
>   notmuch tag --batch

This makes sense to me, modulo the split into 2048-octet lines (magic
numbers make me nervous, though i think i understand why you've included
it).

That said, i've been trying to think lately about how to make notmuch a
tool that's usable by normal humans, who probably won't want to
understand all the moving pieces here.  I don't want yet another MUA
that requires you to edit a turing-complete config file to get useful
functionality -- we already have mutt for that :)

Is there a way that we can push this idea/functionality further into
the core of notmuch in a way that makes it easier to use?

For example, would it make sense to have "notmuch new" (and "notmuch
insert") do "thread-based propagation" of specific tags?  for example,
consider the following (i've just made up the config options):

    notmuch config set new.from_self_tags participated
    notmuch config set new.propagate_thread_tags participated

the idea is that "new.from_self_tags" would be applied by "notmuch new" or
"notmuch insert" if the message was explicitly from: user.primary_email
or user.other_email.

and additionally, if a message was inserted into a thread which has any
of the new.propagated_thread_tags applied, the new message would also
get those tags.

What do y'all think?

    --dkg

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-25 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-09 21:55 find threads where I and Jian participated but not Dave Xu Wang
2017-06-13 15:57 ` Xu Wang
2017-06-13 23:31   ` David Bremner
2017-06-14  0:24     ` Xu Wang
2017-06-14  3:32     ` Brian Sniffen
2017-06-15 17:54     ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-06-15 20:20       ` David Bremner
2017-06-16  1:07         ` Matt Armstrong
2017-06-16  6:28         ` Gaute Hope
2017-06-21 20:04           ` Matt Armstrong
2017-06-21 21:30             ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2017-06-22  6:08               ` Gaute Hope
2017-06-22  6:22                 ` Gaute Hope
2017-06-23  0:00                   ` Matt Armstrong
2017-06-25 15:46                     ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor [this message]
2017-06-25 17:14                       ` finding incoming messages in threads in which i've participated [was: Re: find threads where I and Jian participated but not Dave] David Bremner
2017-06-26 20:49                         ` Matt Armstrong
2017-06-26 23:09                           ` David Bremner
2017-08-20 13:35                           ` Jani Nikula
2017-08-20 13:48                         ` Jani Nikula
2017-08-20 21:32                           ` [PATCH] WIP: add thread subqueries David Bremner
2017-08-21  1:35                             ` David Bremner
2017-09-07 17:47                               ` Gaute Hope
2017-09-07 18:51                                 ` David Bremner
2017-06-25 17:40                       ` finding incoming messages in threads in which i've participated [was: Re: find threads where I and Jian participated but not Dave] Brian Sniffen
2017-06-26 20:54                       ` Matt Armstrong
2017-06-22 20:15               ` find threads where I and Jian participated but not Dave Matt Armstrong

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