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From: Michael J Gruber <git@grubix.eu>
To: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>,
	Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>,
	notmuch@notmuchmail.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] test: due not pass T380.1 for the wrong reasons
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 11:58:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <164535470209.4544.9894205177904049274.git@grubix.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877d9qqx2n.fsf@tethera.net>

David Bremner venit, vidit, dixit 2022-02-20 00:02:40:
> Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi> writes:
> 
> >
> > Wat? afaik echo is builtin in every modern bourne shell derivative...
> >
> > (I tested:
> >  $ bash -c 'builtin echo foo'
> >  foo
> >  $ bash -c 'export PATH=/tmp; echo foo; ls'
> >  foo
> >  bash: ls: command not found
> > )
> 
> Oops. That's what I get for believing "which". Which is another tale of
> woe, of course. Builtin in zsh, and not in bash. Not that it matters
> here, but probably why it doesn't know about bash builtins.

echo is both a builtin (for bash etc) and a command:

$ type echo
echo is a shell builtin

$ which echo
/usr/bin/echo

The latter is part of GNU coreutils (sh-utils) and often used when one
wants to avoid shell pecularities.

printf is a builtin

Due to the way the builtins were specified (or underspecified in the
case of echo) in POSIX, the printf builtin is more portable than the
echo builtin.

As a rule of thumb, the echo builtin is OK if you don't need options
(nor special control sequences) but want a newline at the end of the
output anyways; use printf if you need options or format strings.

Alternatively, require GNU coreutils and use /usr/bin/echo.

Cheers
Michael

P.S.: I haven't forgotten about the series but it needs quite a bit of
rework as we found out.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-20 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-09 11:52 [PATCH 0/4] test: T380 rework Michael J Gruber
2022-02-09 11:52 ` [PATCH 1/4] test: correct comparison order in T380 Michael J Gruber
2022-02-09 20:47   ` Tomi Ollila
2022-02-10 10:05     ` Michael J Gruber
2022-02-09 11:52 ` [PATCH 2/4] test: due not pass T380.1 for the wrong reasons Michael J Gruber
2022-02-09 20:49   ` Tomi Ollila
2022-02-10 10:08     ` Michael J Gruber
2022-02-09 22:12   ` David Bremner
2022-02-10 10:56     ` Michael J Gruber
2022-02-12 20:42       ` David Bremner
2022-02-19 21:50         ` Tomi Ollila
2022-02-19 23:02           ` David Bremner
2022-02-20 10:58             ` Michael J Gruber [this message]
2022-02-20 12:58               ` David Bremner
2022-02-09 11:52 ` [PATCH 3/4] test: reword T380.2 to be clearer Michael J Gruber
2022-02-09 20:49   ` Tomi Ollila
2022-02-09 11:52 ` [PATCH 4/4] test: set up the outcount file for T380.1 Michael J Gruber
2022-02-09 20:50   ` Tomi Ollila
2022-02-10 10:13     ` Michael J Gruber
2022-02-10 17:29       ` Tomi Ollila
2023-11-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 0/4] test: T380 rework Michael J Gruber
2023-11-24 22:20   ` Tomi Ollila

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