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From: Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:55:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9eecdf9-851d-0233-8fa9-0d193702cc71@crazy-compilers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o9j9yy14.fsf@netris.org>

Am 28.03.2018 um 00:05 schrieb Mark H Weaver:
> I disagree.  We achieve something indispensible.  We make it far more
> likely that the next time users purchase hardware, they will avoid
> hardware that would require their operating system to include nonfree
> software.  This creates incentives for the manufacturers to create
> freedom-respecting hardware.

I disagree. Your are assuming somebody already convinced on free
software. This might work for these.

I assume somebody who needs to be convinced that there are alternatives
to what they are used to (Windows, macos). These people will not buy a
new device for testing GNU/Linux or GuixSD, but use the one they already
own. They except GNU/Linux to work! It not, they will be scared off -
and it will be even harder to convince them for another try.

The worm must be tasty to the fish, not the fisherman.

If you want to change the world, you will fail when trying to enforce
the big bang. But you will win by making people taking small steps,
learning, becoming confident. If you want someone to become vegan, first
make her/she reducing the meat consumption, make her/him living
vegetarian, an then vegan. This takes long, but even the first step is a
change towards your aim.

-- 
Regards
Hartmut Goebel

| Hartmut Goebel          | h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com               |
| www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-13 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-02 17:25 Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi) Pierre Neidhardt
2018-03-02 17:41 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-03-02 20:13   ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-03-02 18:04 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-03-05 12:32 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-03-05 14:00 ` Clément Lassieur
2018-03-23 13:29   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-03-25  5:34 ` Chris Marusich
2018-03-25  6:14   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-03-25 10:21   ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-03-27  9:45     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-27 22:05     ` Mark H Weaver
2018-04-13 11:55       ` Hartmut Goebel [this message]
2018-03-25 10:57   ` Marius Bakke
2018-03-29  5:11     ` Chris Marusich
2018-05-01 19:30   ` Librem (was: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)) Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-02 18:07     ` Librem Joshua Branson
2018-05-03  6:47       ` Librem Chris Marusich
2018-05-03  7:44         ` Librem Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-09  6:07           ` Librem Chris Marusich
2018-05-09 16:58             ` Librem Nils Gillmann
2018-05-04 20:56         ` Librem Joshua Branson
2018-05-04 15:15     ` Librem (was: Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi)) Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-05-04 15:17       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-04 16:32       ` Librem Mike Gerwitz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-05-11 12:19 Installation: Load non-free wifi firmware (iwlwifi) 白い熊
2022-05-11 12:31 ` yasu
2022-05-12  7:37   ` 白い熊@相撲道
2022-05-12 16:00     ` zimoun
2022-05-12 20:19       ` David Lecompte
2022-05-12 23:53         ` Yasuaki Kudo
2022-05-13 11:59       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-05-13  1:33     ` Maxim Cournoyer

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