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From: Catonano <catonano@gmail.com>
To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: How to get the package metadata as structured data?
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 01:40:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ98PDyaX-kyJdVQiKCQdkpno+ucsNpUtvwL+K_wL2iMPrGcXg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wpjodbw2.fsf@elephly.net>

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2016-08-10 14:52 GMT+02:00 Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>:

>
> Catonano <catonano@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > 2016-08-10 13:46 GMT+02:00 Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>:
> >
> >>
> >> Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@nexb.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > David Craven <david@craven.ch> wrote:
> >> >> I aborted, since I realised that guix package -s doesn't include the
> >> >> source url and hash, which would be important for a testsuite...
> >> >
> >> > IMHO, if the rec data is the only way to get to the packages data, the
> >> > source url would be rather essential to get in.
> >>
> >> The recutils output is not the *only* way to access the package data.
> >> All packages in Guix are just Scheme variables.  Package data are
> >> available as S-expressions and can be read by Scheme programs or parsed
> >> by external applications.  The recutils output is just an additional
> >> format used when interacting with Guix on the command line.
> >>
> >> (Personally, I’m not enthusiastic about adding a serialised form of the
> >> source field to the recutils output.)
> >>
> >> ~~ Ricardo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Not so long ago, someone posted a script that produced a web page with
> the
> > results of linting all the packages
> >
> > That's an example
> >
> > One could produce an xml file to be imported in Gephi, just to make
> another
> > example.
> >
> > Or a SQL text file to be imported in some relational db, or a different
> > format to be imported in some not relational db...
>
> I understand that it may be useful.  I just think that the
> representation as a Guile Scheme expression/value is *already* much more
> useful.  That’s what made “guix web” possible, a web interface like this
> one:
>
>     http://guix.mdc-berlin.de



Yes, Ricardo, I was not disagreeing with you. I was just trying to offer
Philippe some more perspective.

In fact I believe that the approach you envisioned (a cycle through the
packages values, leaving only the decompress phase and adding a phase that
calls Philippe's tool) has its merits.

Only, if I was Philippe, I would regret storing the output in the store

I'd prefer to be able to store the output in the regular file system

In this regard, I think that the threads about pipelines (for reproducible
science), some time ago, were quite interesting

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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-04 20:49 How to get the package metadata as structured data? David Craven
2016-08-04 21:08 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-08-04 22:03   ` Cook, Malcolm
2016-08-05 10:17     ` David Craven
2016-08-05 11:04       ` David Craven
2016-08-05 12:40         ` Aljosha Papsch
2016-08-05 14:50         ` Philippe Ombredanne
2016-08-05 14:58           ` [PATCH] ui: 'package->recutils' serializes the source field David Craven
2016-08-06 12:35             ` Alex Kost
2016-08-06 12:46               ` David Craven
2016-08-06 15:00               ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-07 10:26                 ` David Craven
2016-08-07 11:15                   ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-07 11:19                     ` David Craven
2016-08-07 12:12                       ` David Craven
2016-08-07 13:27                       ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-07 21:33                         ` David Craven
2016-08-08  0:15                           ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-08 11:20                             ` David Craven
2016-08-08 17:53                               ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-08 18:12                                 ` David Craven
2016-08-08 19:07                                 ` Alex Kost
2016-08-08 21:09                                   ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-08 22:58                                     ` David Craven
2016-08-08 23:56                                       ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-09  0:18                                         ` David Craven
2016-08-10 10:12                                           ` David Craven
2016-08-10 11:30                                             ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-10 11:38                                               ` David Craven
2016-08-10 11:46                                                 ` David Craven
2016-08-10 12:06                                                 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-10 12:15                                                   ` Ben Woodcroft
2016-08-10 12:27                                                     ` David Craven
2016-08-10 12:53                                                       ` Ben Woodcroft
2016-08-10 13:23                                                         ` David Craven
2016-08-10 13:42                                                         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-10 14:13                                                           ` David Craven
2016-08-11 14:38                                                             ` Alex Kost
2016-08-11 16:19                                                               ` David Craven
2016-08-11 18:15                                                                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-12  8:22                                                                 ` Alex Kost
2016-08-11 16:42                                                               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-12  8:33                                                                 ` Alex Kost
2016-08-12  8:41                                                                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-12 10:05                                                                     ` David Craven
2016-08-13  7:46                                                                       ` Alex Kost
2016-08-13 13:00                                                                         ` David Craven
2016-08-13 13:18                                                                           ` Leo Famulari
2016-08-14 16:00                                                                             ` Alex Kost
2016-08-10 14:25                                                           ` Thompson, David
2016-08-10 17:56                                                     ` Leo Famulari
2016-08-11 10:15                             ` Mark H Weaver
2016-08-11 10:21                               ` Mark H Weaver
2016-08-11 11:06                                 ` David Craven
2016-08-11 11:41                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2016-08-11 11:46                                   ` David Craven
2016-08-10 11:46           ` How to get the package metadata as structured data? Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-10 12:14             ` Catonano
2016-08-10 12:52               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-10 23:40                 ` Catonano [this message]
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2016-08-04 18:37 Philippe Ombredanne

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