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From: Mathieu Lirzin <mthl@gnu.org>
To: David Craven <david@craven.ch>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>, Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ui: 'package->recutils' serializes the source field.
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 13:30:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87popglv3u.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL1_im=-7v9H7dSfMYSgkb9sVj8AzOGPfhLwtzquajAWU+udTw@mail.gmail.com> (David Craven's message of "Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:12:19 +0200")

David Craven <david@craven.ch> writes:

> Hi Mathieu,
>
>> No that's not a desired formatting, it should be space separated like
>> the systems list IMO.
>
>> But I guess we aren't telling the full
>> story and should tell the user that we made post download
>> modifications to the tarball to comply with the free software
>> distribution guidelines.
>
> Can we move forward on this then if we incorporate Alex's changes and
> these suggestions?
>
> I'll provide a few pointers for a stronger argument for the next one
> you have (if you don't mind) ;-)
>
> You made the statement that the FSDG wasn't clear enough on the
> subject to make a decision and was open for interpretation. Then you
> made use of "case law" referring to the guix package -S thread.
>
> You also made the statement:
>> I am just claiming that the two things above are equivalent and that as
>> a consequence we can't refuse one and accept the other.  I am not
>> discussing the "why", only applying logic.
>
> I would have expected you to provide a compelling argument for why
> these things are equivalent, since it wasn't obvious to me. Making use
> of case law is a valid argument, but you'd have to explain why and how
> it applies to cast reasonable doubt that this is a FSDG issue. IMO you
> did not do so sufficiently to merit escalating the discussion to a
> different mailing list.

When someone wants to introduce some change, it is up to him to convince
others to accept this change, not the other way.

This discussion is already escalating in a way where you are waisting
your energy (and mine too), Guix-devel is not the relevant place for
talking about FSDG compliance.  I have already explain my reasons and I
will not repeat myself.  If you don't want to take the time to discuss
this on the relevant mailing list, then nothing will move unless you
convince the Guix maintainers that my doubt are not legitimate.

-- 
Mathieu Lirzin

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-10 11:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-04 20:49 How to get the package metadata as structured data? David Craven
2016-08-04 21:08 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-08-04 22:03   ` Cook, Malcolm
2016-08-05 10:17     ` David Craven
2016-08-05 11:04       ` David Craven
2016-08-05 12:40         ` Aljosha Papsch
2016-08-05 14:50         ` Philippe Ombredanne
2016-08-05 14:58           ` [PATCH] ui: 'package->recutils' serializes the source field David Craven
2016-08-06 12:35             ` Alex Kost
2016-08-06 12:46               ` David Craven
2016-08-06 15:00               ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-07 10:26                 ` David Craven
2016-08-07 11:15                   ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-07 11:19                     ` David Craven
2016-08-07 12:12                       ` David Craven
2016-08-07 13:27                       ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-07 21:33                         ` David Craven
2016-08-08  0:15                           ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-08 11:20                             ` David Craven
2016-08-08 17:53                               ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-08 18:12                                 ` David Craven
2016-08-08 19:07                                 ` Alex Kost
2016-08-08 21:09                                   ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-08 22:58                                     ` David Craven
2016-08-08 23:56                                       ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-09  0:18                                         ` David Craven
2016-08-10 10:12                                           ` David Craven
2016-08-10 11:30                                             ` Mathieu Lirzin [this message]
2016-08-10 11:38                                               ` David Craven
2016-08-10 11:46                                                 ` David Craven
2016-08-10 12:06                                                 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-08-10 12:15                                                   ` Ben Woodcroft
2016-08-10 12:27                                                     ` David Craven
2016-08-10 12:53                                                       ` Ben Woodcroft
2016-08-10 13:23                                                         ` David Craven
2016-08-10 13:42                                                         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-10 14:13                                                           ` David Craven
2016-08-11 14:38                                                             ` Alex Kost
2016-08-11 16:19                                                               ` David Craven
2016-08-11 18:15                                                                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-12  8:22                                                                 ` Alex Kost
2016-08-11 16:42                                                               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-12  8:33                                                                 ` Alex Kost
2016-08-12  8:41                                                                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-12 10:05                                                                     ` David Craven
2016-08-13  7:46                                                                       ` Alex Kost
2016-08-13 13:00                                                                         ` David Craven
2016-08-13 13:18                                                                           ` Leo Famulari
2016-08-14 16:00                                                                             ` Alex Kost
2016-08-10 14:25                                                           ` Thompson, David
2016-08-10 17:56                                                     ` Leo Famulari
2016-08-11 10:15                             ` Mark H Weaver
2016-08-11 10:21                               ` Mark H Weaver
2016-08-11 11:06                                 ` David Craven
2016-08-11 11:41                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2016-08-11 11:46                                   ` David Craven
2016-08-10 11:46           ` How to get the package metadata as structured data? Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-10 12:14             ` Catonano
2016-08-10 12:52               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-10 23:40                 ` Catonano

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