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From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Parameterized packages
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:50:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ3okZ0ZN6UKkUN4=C5gXxmFOq+nSHFMrhTR=+SZCesyVog5Ag@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tv4qjy06.fsf@ambrevar.xyz>

On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 10:08, Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> wrote:
>
> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > I agree.  ‘package-input-rewriting’ gives us almost what you want, with
> > the limitation that implicit inputs are ignored (which is a good thing
> > sometimes, and a problem in cases where you want to experiment with
> > toolchains, as you write).
> >
> > What we’d need is a variant of ‘package-input-rewriting’ that somehow
> > walks through implicit dependencies.  It could do that by changing the
> > build system, I guess.
>
> To clarify, this does not cover the extent of what "parameters" could
> do, since parameters are not just about input rewriting.

As we discussed here [1]:
<<
> Should we touch implicit inputs, we would have to parse all the
> references and not just the explicit inputs like --with-input does.

My mind is not clear at all.

What is the final aim to have parametrized packages?
What does it mean "parametrized"?
Does it mean extend the transformation options as Ludo described [2].
Does it mean more?
>>

Could you define what do you mean by "parameters"?
Sorry to be slow but I am not clear about what we are talking about
precisely. :-)

1. Because the initial Ludo's message was about glic-locale which is
somehow an input.
2. The thread spoke also about flags à la Gentoo USE flags.
3. Other messages were about set X or Wayland or no-X for this or that package.
4. Another were about change the toolchain of the build systems.
etc.

All are "parameters". :-)

The solution of 1. and 4. seems to be able to re-write all the implicit inputs.

The solution of 2. and 3. seems to write, as Ludo mentioned:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(define (make-me-a-package option1 option2)
    (package
      …))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


Well, could you clarify what do you have in mind about "parameters"?
Just to stay on the wavelength and keep focus. :-)


[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2020-01/msg00274.html




Cheers,
simon

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-20 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-14 11:54 Parameterized packages Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-14 15:17 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-05-17 14:23   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-05-17 18:15   ` Mark H Weaver
2019-07-19  5:41     ` Chris Marusich
2019-07-19 20:29     ` ison
2020-01-02 19:23       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-09 11:10         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-09 23:13           ` Marius Bakke
2020-01-10 12:29             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-10 16:19         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-11 11:31           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 15:05             ` zimoun
2020-01-15  9:40               ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 11:30                 ` zimoun
2020-01-15 11:51                   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 13:54                     ` zimoun
2020-01-16 19:06                       ` ison
2020-01-16 20:55                         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-17 16:34                           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-17  9:15                         ` L p R n d n
2020-01-17 16:46                           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-17 15:53                         ` zimoun
2020-01-17 16:56                           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:34                             ` zimoun
2020-01-21 10:56                             ` Build systems and implicit inputs Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-21 12:24                               ` zimoun
2020-01-21 13:07                                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-21 18:02                                   ` zimoun
2020-01-19 20:34                           ` Parameterized packages Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-20  9:08                             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:50                               ` zimoun [this message]
2020-01-20 18:57                                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 19:07                                   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 22:57                                   ` ison
2020-01-21 10:09                                     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-21 10:49                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-21 12:15                                   ` zimoun
2020-01-21 13:13                                     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-21 19:04                                       ` zimoun
2020-01-22  9:54                                         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-22 12:23                                           ` zimoun
2020-01-24 21:56                                             ` ison
2020-01-26 19:35                                               ` zimoun
2020-01-27 10:13                                                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-27 11:23                                                   ` zimoun
2020-01-27 11:50                                                     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-27 12:34                                                       ` zimoun
2020-01-27 10:04                                               ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-25 18:52                                             ` John Soo
2020-01-27 10:17                                               ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:12                             ` zimoun
2020-01-17 16:31                         ` Pierre Neidhardt
     [not found]                         ` <875zhbvzfz.fsf@guixSD.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
2020-01-17 16:41                           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-19 20:30                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-15 11:43                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 11:44           ` Pierre Neidhardt

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