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From: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Parameterized packages
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 14:13:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lfq1q7ea.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ3okZ1VsYDaBj_Uqwe28VPR1npjZpRech990Q+LKaGE+6xmXw@mail.gmail.com>

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zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> writes:

>> > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> > (define (make-me-a-package option1 option2)
>> >     (package
>> >       …))
>> > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>> The ellipsis is a bit vague here.  What is this trying to do?
>
> What you wrote below. :-)

?

> And my opinion is that you described is already possible (more or
> less) using 'inherit'. Except the modification of the compiling
> options (build-system).

The crucial difference is the current approach with inherit /does not
compose/.  This is where USE flags stand strong because you can tell
what happens when both flags X and Y are set, e.g.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
  (if (and X Y)
     ; Do something when we have both X and Y activated.
     ; Else maybe just X, or just Y, or none.
     )
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

>> The point of declaring the parameters in advance is that it allows the
>> user to list all parameters used by a given package.
>
> I bet that the number of broken packages will increase.

Probably.  But if we keep the same standard for the default values of
the parameters, we would keep the same level of quality.  It should be OK.

>> - To let the user choose which video player to use.  This is a popular
>>   USE flag on Gentoo (maybe with a different name).
>
> What I do not understand is: people who used Gentoo and especially USE
> flag are saying that it ends with a big mess with broken packages.
> Therefore, why does Guix want to reproduce the mess?

Because it is extremely powerful: in a simple declaration like "no-X +
pulseaudio + python3 + gtk2" you can build /your entire system/,
according to the flags you've set, in just one command.

Cheers!

-- 
Pierre Neidhardt
https://ambrevar.xyz/

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-21 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-14 11:54 Parameterized packages Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-14 15:17 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-05-17 14:23   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-05-17 18:15   ` Mark H Weaver
2019-07-19  5:41     ` Chris Marusich
2019-07-19 20:29     ` ison
2020-01-02 19:23       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-09 11:10         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-09 23:13           ` Marius Bakke
2020-01-10 12:29             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-10 16:19         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-11 11:31           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 15:05             ` zimoun
2020-01-15  9:40               ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 11:30                 ` zimoun
2020-01-15 11:51                   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 13:54                     ` zimoun
2020-01-16 19:06                       ` ison
2020-01-16 20:55                         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-17 16:34                           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-17  9:15                         ` L p R n d n
2020-01-17 16:46                           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-17 15:53                         ` zimoun
2020-01-17 16:56                           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:34                             ` zimoun
2020-01-21 10:56                             ` Build systems and implicit inputs Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-21 12:24                               ` zimoun
2020-01-21 13:07                                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-21 18:02                                   ` zimoun
2020-01-19 20:34                           ` Parameterized packages Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-20  9:08                             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:50                               ` zimoun
2020-01-20 18:57                                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 19:07                                   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 22:57                                   ` ison
2020-01-21 10:09                                     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-21 10:49                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-21 12:15                                   ` zimoun
2020-01-21 13:13                                     ` Pierre Neidhardt [this message]
2020-01-21 19:04                                       ` zimoun
2020-01-22  9:54                                         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-22 12:23                                           ` zimoun
2020-01-24 21:56                                             ` ison
2020-01-26 19:35                                               ` zimoun
2020-01-27 10:13                                                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-27 11:23                                                   ` zimoun
2020-01-27 11:50                                                     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-27 12:34                                                       ` zimoun
2020-01-27 10:04                                               ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-25 18:52                                             ` John Soo
2020-01-27 10:17                                               ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:12                             ` zimoun
2020-01-17 16:31                         ` Pierre Neidhardt
     [not found]                         ` <875zhbvzfz.fsf@guixSD.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
2020-01-17 16:41                           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-19 20:30                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-15 11:43                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 11:44           ` Pierre Neidhardt

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