From: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>, swedebugia <swedebugia@riseup.net>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 05/15: gnu: wesnoth: Rename package to the-battle-for-wesnoth.
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 19:26:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y350fa2e.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874l7ojhdk.fsf@nckx>
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Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> writes:
> TL;DR: we're missing a field like ‘DISPLAY-NAME’, and all this is
> just hacking around the bush.
This could be a very nice idea!
> Using this logic, I counter that these very long names unfairly
> privilege 1337 hackers who can touch-type, and hurt the average
> Jo' poking at their chiclet keyboard with a chopstick ;-)
>
> Both arguments make about as much sense IMO (and caricature
> users). I think a name like ‘the-battle-for-wesnoth’ helps
> *neither* user.
Users who cannot touch-type will typically perform simple queries, such as:
- battle wesnoth
- wesnoth battle
- battle
- wesnoth
(Using Emacs-Guix.el, Helm, or the next GTK interface.)
With "wesnoth" as a name, 3 out 4 queries won't hit a result.
I don't think that "typing" is the issue here. At least, I wouldn't
sacrifice the _ability to search_ just to type short names.
Also an option is to alias package names.
> XLong names take longer to type on the command line, and noisy to
> read in code.
Noisy? Why? Short code filled with acronyms tends to be harder to read
then long explicit names.
Package names are mostly used as inputs. In those longs package lists,
it's really nice to have explicit names and leave little room for ambiguity.
> Some hinder tab-completion.
Why?
> In a GUI, they still look ugly: why no spaces? Why lowercase?
> Why bother? We don't have to choose between POLA from other
> command-line package managers and providing pretty metadata for
> higher-level UIs.
> We can do both.
Absolutely.
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Pierre Neidhardt
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[not found] <20190326131842.7363.84034@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <20190326131845.1B177209E3@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-03-26 14:54 ` 06/15: gnu: wesnoth-server: Rename package to the-battle-for-wesnoth-server Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-26 14:20 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-26 15:18 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-26 15:32 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-26 17:53 ` Andreas Enge
2019-03-26 18:25 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-27 11:11 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-27 11:36 ` Pierre Neidhardt
[not found] ` <20190326131844.C73EC209E3@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-03-27 11:07 ` 05/15: gnu: wesnoth: Rename package to the-battle-for-wesnoth Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-27 11:46 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-27 13:20 ` swedebugia
2019-03-27 15:00 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-27 16:42 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-28 7:59 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-28 8:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-29 13:27 ` swedebugia
2019-03-27 15:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-27 18:34 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-27 18:26 ` Pierre Neidhardt [this message]
2019-03-27 18:44 ` Daniel Jiang
2019-03-27 21:15 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-28 8:17 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-29 14:02 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-29 15:16 ` Andreas Enge
2019-03-29 16:42 ` Naming, hacking, and policies Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-29 19:23 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-31 16:33 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-30 13:54 ` sirgazil
2019-03-31 16:37 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-31 18:03 ` sirgazil
2019-03-31 20:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-31 22:59 ` sirgazil
2019-04-01 0:07 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-29 19:57 ` 05/15: gnu: wesnoth: Rename package to the-battle-for-wesnoth swedebugia
2019-03-27 15:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-27 16:25 ` Pierre Neidhardt
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