* Re: Bootstrap Tarballs for alpha-linux Targets
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@ 2018-08-19 16:35 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-20 6:27 ` Nils Gillmann
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-08-19 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vincent Weisner; +Cc: guix-devel
Hello Vincent,
Vincent Weisner <vincentweisner@icloud.com> skribis:
> On Aug 10, 2018, at 05:10 AM, Vincent Weisner <vincentweisner@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> I have cross-compiled the GNU Guix bootstrap tarballs for DEC Alpha systems running GNU/Linux. I don't own an Alpha system, so I didn't get to test them.
> The SHA256 Checksum for the uploaded files are:
> 53d990843c2c64f6593d0ae8262dca758910da6783b3949ef54677a87c3c5cd8 - binutils-static-stripped-2.28-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> 2ab011049b50f4ce04952e3fab7c6020da71e13b454cceb75f6fbd774b8973d2 - gcc-stripped-5.4.0-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> 6c36b8179fee99e942b7bdf49e523d4f46aa23cbbd9bc818364239fc67b3fe6c - glibc-stripped-2.25-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> 8668d3943ab2045a061f442954964fcb07fed2136edb08ecf9ef561ddb120ddf - guile-static-stripped-2.2.2-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> 7c1cdc3b63794315040d77b4d019793444b9496b9843bc87d2ed70dc0435731b - static-binaries-0-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
>
> I will upload the bootstrap GCC tarball in a reply as I maxed out my attachment space.
Nice! Did cross-compilation work without any additional patches?
Do you have hardware to run it on?
Since Alpha CPUs are (unfortunately) no longer produced, I would rather
not include the Alpha port in Guix proper. You would have to maintain
your own branch of Guix if you plan to use it regularly.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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* Re: Bootstrap Tarballs for alpha-linux Targets
2018-08-19 16:35 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2018-08-20 6:27 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-08-20 10:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Nils Gillmann @ 2018-08-20 6:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: guix-devel, Vincent Weisner
Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.3K bytes:
> Hello Vincent,
>
> Vincent Weisner <vincentweisner@icloud.com> skribis:
>
> > On Aug 10, 2018, at 05:10 AM, Vincent Weisner <vincentweisner@icloud.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have cross-compiled the GNU Guix bootstrap tarballs for DEC Alpha systems running GNU/Linux. I don't own an Alpha system, so I didn't get to test them.
> > The SHA256 Checksum for the uploaded files are:
> > 53d990843c2c64f6593d0ae8262dca758910da6783b3949ef54677a87c3c5cd8 - binutils-static-stripped-2.28-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> > 2ab011049b50f4ce04952e3fab7c6020da71e13b454cceb75f6fbd774b8973d2 - gcc-stripped-5.4.0-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> > 6c36b8179fee99e942b7bdf49e523d4f46aa23cbbd9bc818364239fc67b3fe6c - glibc-stripped-2.25-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> > 8668d3943ab2045a061f442954964fcb07fed2136edb08ecf9ef561ddb120ddf - guile-static-stripped-2.2.2-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> > 7c1cdc3b63794315040d77b4d019793444b9496b9843bc87d2ed70dc0435731b - static-binaries-0-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> >
> > I will upload the bootstrap GCC tarball in a reply as I maxed out my attachment space.
>
> Nice! Did cross-compilation work without any additional patches?
> Do you have hardware to run it on?
>
> Since Alpha CPUs are (unfortunately) no longer produced, I would rather
> not include the Alpha port in Guix proper. You would have to maintain
> your own branch of Guix if you plan to use it regularly.
>
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.
>
For those who might be interested:
Is this an entire range of CPUs with no differences wrt binary compability?
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* Re: Bootstrap Tarballs for alpha-linux Targets
2018-08-20 6:27 ` Nils Gillmann
@ 2018-08-20 10:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-08-20 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vincent Weisner; +Cc: guix-devel
Nils Gillmann <ng0@n0.is> skribis:
> Is this an entire range of CPUs with no differences wrt binary compability?
Alphas were 64-bit processors that were discontinued in the early 2000s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEC_Alpha
Ludo’.
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* Re: Bootstrap Tarballs for alpha-linux Targets
@ 2018-08-21 15:07 Vincent Weisner
2018-08-23 8:10 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-08-24 10:03 ` Ludovic Courtès
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Vincent Weisner @ 2018-08-21 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ludo; +Cc: guix-devel
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Ludo,
No additional patches were needed and no, I don't have any DEC Alpha hardware.
If you rather not include an Alpha port, then why does the code state "alpha-linux" in /gnu/packages/bootstrapping.scm?
On Aug 19, 2018, at 12:35 PM, ludo@gnu.org wrote:
Hello Vincent,
Vincent Weisner <vincentweisner@icloud.com> skribis:
On Aug 10, 2018, at 05:10 AM, Vincent Weisner <vincentweisner@icloud.com> wrote:
I have cross-compiled the GNU Guix bootstrap tarballs for DEC Alpha systems running GNU/Linux. I don't own an Alpha system, so I didn't get to test them.
The SHA256 Checksum for the uploaded files are:
53d990843c2c64f6593d0ae8262dca758910da6783b3949ef54677a87c3c5cd8 - binutils-static-stripped-2.28-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
2ab011049b50f4ce04952e3fab7c6020da71e13b454cceb75f6fbd774b8973d2 - gcc-stripped-5.4.0-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
6c36b8179fee99e942b7bdf49e523d4f46aa23cbbd9bc818364239fc67b3fe6c - glibc-stripped-2.25-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
8668d3943ab2045a061f442954964fcb07fed2136edb08ecf9ef561ddb120ddf - guile-static-stripped-2.2.2-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
7c1cdc3b63794315040d77b4d019793444b9496b9843bc87d2ed70dc0435731b - static-binaries-0-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
I will upload the bootstrap GCC tarball in a reply as I maxed out my attachment space.
Nice! Did cross-compilation work without any additional patches?
Do you have hardware to run it on?
Since Alpha CPUs are (unfortunately) no longer produced, I would rather
not include the Alpha port in Guix proper. You would have to maintain
your own branch of Guix if you plan to use it regularly.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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* Re: Bootstrap Tarballs for alpha-linux Targets
2018-08-21 15:07 Bootstrap Tarballs for alpha-linux Targets Vincent Weisner
@ 2018-08-23 8:10 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-08-24 10:03 ` Ludovic Courtès
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Nils Gillmann @ 2018-08-23 8:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vincent Weisner; +Cc: guix-devel
I have conflicted opinions about this.
Curiosity, which is a big motivation for many project I work on, wants
to support alpha.
The reality is though, that any operating system needs to be able to
provide support. If it's not intrinsic support from enthusiasts about
a certain platform, we need to do it. It is difficult with quasi dead
platforms.
The resources Guix itself currently takes are difficult for devices
with low specs.
I myself am not again alpha. Is it unrealistic? Of course. Might it be
of use for some people? Yes.
It would be interesting to support alpha, sparc/64, etc, but that is
just me.
The final call is for Ludovic and Ricardo.
Vincent Weisner transcribed 5.0K bytes:
> Ludo,
>
>
>
> No additional patches were needed and no, I don't have any DEC Alpha hardware.
>
>
>
> If you rather not include an Alpha port, then why does the code state "alpha-linux" in /gnu/packages/bootstrapping.scm?
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2018, at 12:35 PM, ludo@gnu.org wrote:
>
>
> Hello Vincent,
>
> Vincent Weisner <vincentweisner@icloud.com> skribis:
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2018, at 05:10 AM, Vincent Weisner <vincentweisner@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have cross-compiled the GNU Guix bootstrap tarballs for DEC Alpha systems running GNU/Linux. I don't own an Alpha system, so I didn't get to test them.
> The SHA256 Checksum for the uploaded files are:
> 53d990843c2c64f6593d0ae8262dca758910da6783b3949ef54677a87c3c5cd8 - binutils-static-stripped-2.28-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> 2ab011049b50f4ce04952e3fab7c6020da71e13b454cceb75f6fbd774b8973d2 - gcc-stripped-5.4.0-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> 6c36b8179fee99e942b7bdf49e523d4f46aa23cbbd9bc818364239fc67b3fe6c - glibc-stripped-2.25-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> 8668d3943ab2045a061f442954964fcb07fed2136edb08ecf9ef561ddb120ddf - guile-static-stripped-2.2.2-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
> 7c1cdc3b63794315040d77b4d019793444b9496b9843bc87d2ed70dc0435731b - static-binaries-0-alpha-linux-gnu.tar.xz
>
>
> I will upload the bootstrap GCC tarball in a reply as I maxed out my attachment space.
>
> Nice! Did cross-compilation work without any additional patches?
> Do you have hardware to run it on?
>
> Since Alpha CPUs are (unfortunately) no longer produced, I would rather
> not include the Alpha port in Guix proper. You would have to maintain
> your own branch of Guix if you plan to use it regularly.
>
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Bootstrap Tarballs for alpha-linux Targets
2018-08-21 15:07 Bootstrap Tarballs for alpha-linux Targets Vincent Weisner
2018-08-23 8:10 ` Nils Gillmann
@ 2018-08-24 10:03 ` Ludovic Courtès
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-08-24 10:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vincent Weisner; +Cc: guix-devel
Hi,
Vincent Weisner <vincentweisner@icloud.com> skribis:
> No additional patches were needed and no, I don't have any DEC Alpha hardware.
OK.
> If you rather not include an Alpha port, then why does the code state "alpha-linux" in /gnu/packages/bootstrapping.scm?
That’s because somebody else tried cross-compiling to Alpha some time
ago; it was Sergei Trofimovich, and IIRC Sergei did have Alpha hardware
at the time. :-)
Ludo’.
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