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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 53447@debbugs.gnu.org, Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
Subject: [bug#53447] Introducing ‘GUIX_’-prefixed environment variables
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 20:56:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wnin2rae.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lez4lz96.fsf_-_@gnu.org> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:29:41 +0100")

Hi Ludovic,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:
>
>> I like to see this as a bug, so I've opened one as 53514; Guix should
>> strive to not mess with the host environment, and setting global
>> variables used by both Guix and a potentially foreign host goes against
>> this.  The proper fix would be to patch all applications in Guix to use
>> Guix-specific variables, such as GUIX_XDG_DATA_DIRS instead of
>> XDG_DATA_DIRS.
>
> This approach has its appeal (like in the ‘GUIX_PYTHONPATH’ case), but
> there’s a tension with our other unwritten (?) guideline that we should
> modify packages as little as possible.
>
> Such wide-ranging changes would have the unfortunate effect that they’d
> make Guix packages “special”: documentation, bug reports, suggestions
> you’d find online would apply to the “real” package, but maybe not to
> the Guix one.  That is a situation we’d rather avoid IMO.

True; but after people would get a hang that in Guix most environment
variables would be prefixed with 'GUIX_', I don't think it'd be that big
of an issue.  Maintaining the patches would be where the burden would
lie, in my opinion.

> ‘XDG_DATA_DIRS’ is a real problem though.  In large part that’s because
> its purpose is too broad—what “data dirs” are we talking about?  It
> would be ideal if we could progressively replace ‘XDG_DATA_DIRS’ search
> path specifications with more specific environment variables, when they
> exist, or perhaps by using ‘wrap-program’ instead of having search path
> specs.

Are there any more specific environment variables that exist that can
replace XDG_DATA_DIRS?  I'm not too knowledgeable about the freedesktop
specs, but I'm somewhat skeptical?  If they don't yet exist, that makes
this idea much less actionable.

Thanks,

Maxim




  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-26  1:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-22 14:13 [bug#53447] [PATCH] doc: Unset environment variables considered harmful Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-22 16:04 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-22 17:53   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-24 22:27     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-01-25 13:29       ` [bug#53447] Introducing ‘GUIX_’-prefixed environment variables Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-26  1:56         ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2022-01-26 12:05           ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-26 20:03             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-01-27  4:53               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-01-25  7:39     ` [bug#53447] [PATCH] doc: Unset environment variables considered harmful Ludovic Courtès
2022-01-25 19:21       ` Liliana Marie Prikler

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