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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
Cc: 44559@debbugs.gnu.org, Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@gnu.org>,
	Christopher Baines <mail@cbaines.net>,
	Carl Dong <contact@carldong.me>
Subject: bug#44559: gnutls 3.6.12 fails to build: FAIL: status-request-revoked
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 15:17:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wnce7bwr.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tu7lys0b.fsf_-_@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Wed,  13 Jul 2022 11:03:16 -0400")

Hi,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:

> I lost track of the details -- is this problem still likely to bite us
> in the future, or was something committed to mitigate against it?

“Time bombs” are the worst of non-reproducibility bugs because (1) we
don’t have workarounds other than changing the system time on the
machine that performs the build, and (2) we currently lack a way to
detect them.

In this thread, Chris and I proposed addressing #2 by offering ways to
automatically or manually run builds “in the future”¹.  We could actually
similarly address #1 by running builds “in the past”.

In any case, the first step is probably to offer a VM service for Guix
System, similar to childhurd, with an option to specify the starting
time.

So we’re not done yet, but the discussion has drifted beyond the
original GnuTLS bug report, so perhaps we can close it and take it
elsewhere?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

¹ QEMU can be passed an option like “-rtc base=2020-01-01”.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-15 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-10 20:49 bug#44559: gnutls 3.6.12 fails to build: FAIL: status-request-revoked Christopher Baines
2020-11-12 21:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-12 21:18   ` Marius Bakke
2020-11-15 11:05     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-12-31  0:27 ` bug#44559: Solution jeremiah
2021-02-16 21:00 ` bug#44559: Carl Dong
2021-02-16 21:49   ` bug#44559: Leo Famulari
2021-02-19 15:33   ` bug#44559: Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-19 18:32     ` bug#44559: Maxime Devos
2021-02-20 13:46       ` bug#44559: Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-20 14:12         ` bug#44559: Detecting “expiring” builds Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-19 23:49     ` bug#44559: Carl Dong
2021-02-22 22:36     ` bug#44559: Christopher Baines
2021-02-23  8:41       ` bug#44559: Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-23  8:55         ` bug#44559: Christopher Baines
2022-07-13 15:03         ` bug#44559: gnutls 3.6.12 fails to build: FAIL: status-request-revoked Maxim Cournoyer
2022-07-15 13:17           ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2022-07-16  1:33             ` Maxim Cournoyer

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