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From: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>, "Carl Dong" <contact@carldong.me>
Cc: 44559@debbugs.gnu.org, Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#44559:
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 19:32:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d72d9c66d0e9f70f6ff1fb3b4d08ed530551288.camel@telenet.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lfbkkr6r.fsf@gnu.org>

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Hi Guix,

On Fri, 2021-02-19 at 16:33 +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> [...]
> Longer-term, we need to find a way to address or avoid this issue.  A
> brute-force approach would be to have the build machines at ci.guix run
> with a clock ten years ahead.  That should generally be fine since the
> only place where timestamps matter are unmodified upstream tarballs.  In
> all other cases, mtime is set to 1.

Alternatively, could the build container be adjusted to always begin at
1970-01-01, using ‘time namespaces’?

Linux: https://lwn.net/Articles/766089/
Hurd analogue: https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/gnumach-doc/Host-Interface.html#Host-Interface

(Of course, someone needs to find the time to write the patches first.  Maybe
I'll have a try at it eventually, but probably not anytime soon.)

Also, is there any particular reason to set the clock only ten years ahead,
and not, say, a millenia or two?  Some possible reasons:

* year 2038,2446 problem: the ext2 and ext4 filesystems have a restricted
  date range
* year 2038 problem: https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/gnumach-doc/Host-Interface.html#Host-Interface

  IMO, the year 2038 problem is a bug and affected packages should simply be fixed.
  But perhaps reality is a little more complicated.

Greetings,
Maxime

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-19 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-10 20:49 bug#44559: gnutls 3.6.12 fails to build: FAIL: status-request-revoked Christopher Baines
2020-11-12 21:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-12 21:18   ` Marius Bakke
2020-11-15 11:05     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-12-31  0:27 ` bug#44559: Solution jeremiah
2021-02-16 21:00 ` bug#44559: Carl Dong
2021-02-16 21:49   ` bug#44559: Leo Famulari
2021-02-19 15:33   ` bug#44559: Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-19 18:32     ` Maxime Devos [this message]
2021-02-20 13:46       ` bug#44559: Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-20 14:12         ` bug#44559: Detecting “expiring” builds Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-19 23:49     ` bug#44559: Carl Dong
2021-02-22 22:36     ` bug#44559: Christopher Baines
2021-02-23  8:41       ` bug#44559: Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-23  8:55         ` bug#44559: Christopher Baines
2022-07-13 15:03         ` bug#44559: gnutls 3.6.12 fails to build: FAIL: status-request-revoked Maxim Cournoyer
2022-07-15 13:17           ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-07-16  1:33             ` Maxim Cournoyer

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