From: indieterminacy@libre.brussels
To: Larry Doolittle <larry@doolittle.boa.org>
Cc: General discussions about reproducible builds
<rb-general@lists.reproducible-builds.org>,
Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>,
bootstrappable@freelists.org, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GNU Mes 0.24 released
Date: Mon, 09 May 2022 16:00:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r152lrth.fsf@qiuy04.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ynb8imBbn0iBWyjE@doolittle.boa.org>
Larry Doolittle <larry@doolittle.boa.org> writes:
> Ludovic and friends -
>
> On Sun, May 08, 2022 at 12:34:47AM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> skribis:
>> > Mes has now been ported to M2-Planet and can be bootstrapped using
>> > stage0-posix[0], starting from the 357-byte hex0 binary of the
>> > bootstrap-seeds[1], as was promised at FOSDEM'21[2].
>> This is amazing… congrats to you & everyone involved! You made it! :-)
>
> +1
>
>> The common objection is: “you’re building from source but you’re not
>> gonna audit all that source code anyway, so why bother?” [...]
>> Supply chain security is a spectrum and I think this achievement changes
>> what we can expect and demand.
>
> I've had this conversation before, any my analogy is to the
> three legs of a stool. Bootstrapped toolchains, reproducible builds,
> and source-code audits. Each one is arguably useless without the others,
> but taken together, you've actually accomplished something meaningful.
> Maybe I should also include "cryptographically signed artifact distribution"
> on that list.
>
> - Larry
With works this sturdy then even two tool domains suffice as a fine and
versatile stepladder...
Great job everybody!
- Jonathan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-09 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-02 18:04 GNU Mes 0.24 released Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2022-05-07 22:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-05-07 23:11 ` Larry Doolittle
2022-05-08 13:55 ` Sébastien Lerique
2022-05-08 19:49 ` Larry Doolittle
2022-05-09 14:00 ` indieterminacy [this message]
2022-05-09 0:03 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2022-05-09 20:22 ` Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)
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