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From: "Sébastien Lerique" <sl@eauchat.org>
To: Larry Doolittle <larry@doolittle.boa.org>
Cc: General discussions about reproducible builds
	<rb-general@lists.reproducible-builds.org>,
	Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>,
	bootstrappable@freelists.org, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GNU Mes 0.24 released
Date: Sun, 08 May 2022 22:55:41 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mtfsjdty.fsf@eauchat.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ynb8imBbn0iBWyjE@doolittle.boa.org>

Amazing indeed!

On 07 May 2022 at 16:11, Larry Doolittle <larry@doolittle.boa.org> wrote:
>> The common objection is: “you’re building from source but you’re not
>> gonna audit all that source code anyway, so why bother?”  [...]
>> Supply chain security is a spectrum and I think this achievement changes
>> what we can expect and demand.
>
> I've had this conversation before, any my analogy is to the
> three legs of a stool.  Bootstrapped toolchains, reproducible builds,
> and source-code audits.  Each one is arguably useless without the others,
> but taken together, you've actually accomplished something meaningful.
> Maybe I should also include "cryptographically signed artifact distribution"
> on that list.
>

In a similar line, Bunnie Huang gave an interesting talk about the
hardware trust level a few years ago [0], which led to the Precursor
project [1,2].

Cheers,
Sébastien

[0] https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10690-open_source_is_insufficient_to_solve_trust_problems_in_hardware
[1] https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor
[2] https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5979


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-08 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-02 18:04 GNU Mes 0.24 released Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2022-05-07 22:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-05-07 23:11   ` Larry Doolittle
2022-05-08 13:55     ` Sébastien Lerique [this message]
2022-05-08 19:49       ` Larry Doolittle
2022-05-09 14:00     ` indieterminacy
2022-05-09  0:03   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2022-05-09 20:22     ` Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)

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