From: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
To: Quiliro Ordonez <quiliro@riseup.net>
Cc: Help Guix <help-guix@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: proposal to remove linux-Libre from Guix
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 22:38:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mule1xyl.fsf@elephly.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8c65bf4ce790c911656cf1470c30fccc@riseup.net>
Quiliro Ordonez <quiliro@riseup.net> writes:
> Even though linux-Libre is a great kernel because it provides good
> technical value as well as freedom value, our advocacy for freedom is
> greatly hindered when people call our project a Linux distribution
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guix_System_Distribution
> Our advocacy for freedom is confused with the advocacy Linux for more
> technology and tangentially advocating slavery without remorse.
>
> I propose to eliminate linux-Libre from the repos and add kFreeBSD. A
> new repository, separate from Guix and not connected to the project
> could be created in order to add linux-Libre. That way, GuixSD could in
> no way be ever called a Linux distribution. An action like this could
> even help all other GNU distros as well as distinguish GuixSD from all.
This is not a reasonable goal and it is not a productive proposal for a
number of reasons.
If you want to port the GNU system to have it use the FreeBSD kernel you
are welcome to give it a try, but this would be a *major* undertaking
that I can only advise against. The GNU C library does not natively
support the FreeBSD kernel, so it is a *much* less realistic goal than
to build a Hurd-based Guix system.
All this for merely giving people a reason to stop using the term “Linux
distribution”?
Linux libre is one of the GNU system’s supported kernels; why should we
limit our options just because of the terms other people use? If people
choose to call Guix a “Linux distribution” that’s their decision (and it
is understandable from their perspective even if we disagree with that
point of view) – it would be foolish to interpret this situation as an
imperative to abandon Linux(-libre).
--
Ricardo
PS: in case this was meant as a joke: it’s hard to be sure on this
Internet of ours :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-28 21:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-28 20:34 proposal to remove linux-Libre from Guix Quiliro Ordonez
2019-03-28 21:38 ` Ricardo Wurmus [this message]
2019-03-28 22:38 ` Quiliro Ordonez
2019-03-29 0:21 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-29 15:48 ` ng0
2019-03-29 18:51 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-30 6:58 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-03-29 18:24 ` Quiliro Ordonez
2019-03-28 22:04 ` L p R n d n
2019-03-28 22:29 ` Quiliro Ordonez
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