From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: proposal to remove linux-Libre from Guix Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 22:38:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87mule1xyl.fsf@elephly.net> References: <8c65bf4ce790c911656cf1470c30fccc@riseup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56280) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h9cjU-0001Ar-CE for help-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 17:38:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h9cjT-0005nL-Ac for help-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 17:38:44 -0400 Received: from sender.zoho.com ([135.84.80.194]:21267 helo=sender-of-o51.zoho.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h9cjS-0005mr-SU for help-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 17:38:43 -0400 In-reply-to: <8c65bf4ce790c911656cf1470c30fccc@riseup.net> List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Quiliro Ordonez Cc: Help Guix Quiliro Ordonez writes: > Even though linux-Libre is a great kernel because it provides good > technical value as well as freedom value, our advocacy for freedom is > greatly hindered when people call our project a Linux distribution > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guix_System_Distribution > Our advocacy for freedom is confused with the advocacy Linux for more > technology and tangentially advocating slavery without remorse. > > I propose to eliminate linux-Libre from the repos and add kFreeBSD. A > new repository, separate from Guix and not connected to the project > could be created in order to add linux-Libre. That way, GuixSD could in > no way be ever called a Linux distribution. An action like this could > even help all other GNU distros as well as distinguish GuixSD from all. This is not a reasonable goal and it is not a productive proposal for a number of reasons. If you want to port the GNU system to have it use the FreeBSD kernel you are welcome to give it a try, but this would be a *major* undertaking that I can only advise against. The GNU C library does not natively support the FreeBSD kernel, so it is a *much* less realistic goal than to build a Hurd-based Guix system. All this for merely giving people a reason to stop using the term =E2=80=9C= Linux distribution=E2=80=9D? Linux libre is one of the GNU system=E2=80=99s supported kernels; why shoul= d we limit our options just because of the terms other people use? If people choose to call Guix a =E2=80=9CLinux distribution=E2=80=9D that=E2=80=99s t= heir decision (and it is understandable from their perspective even if we disagree with that point of view) =E2=80=93 it would be foolish to interpret this situation as= an imperative to abandon Linux(-libre). -- Ricardo PS: in case this was meant as a joke: it=E2=80=99s hard to be sure on this Internet of ours :)