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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Cc: bug-xorriso@gnu.org, 33639@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#33639: ISO installer image is broken on i686
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2018 23:51:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1klar3e.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12559682391379993357@scdbackup.webframe.org> (Thomas Schmitt's message of "Thu, 06 Dec 2018 18:29:19 +0100")

Hello!

"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> skribis:

>> Based on this and on a suggestion Ricardo made on IRC, I passed
>> “-padding 10m” and that solved the problem.  \o/
>
> Ouchers. Do all files bear their expected content ?
> Especially the last one: /var/guix/db/db.sqlite

It looks good, and there are no I/O errors left (I mounted it and run
“tar” over it.)

Note that the image is now available here:

  https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/guixsd-install-0.16.0.i686-linux.iso.xz

(I haven’t tried smaller padding.)

> If so, then something truncates the output stream of libisofs via libburn.
> The only component that comes to my mind is the fifo between them.
> The default fifo size is 4 MiB. Quite suspicious.
>
> Try to reduce its size to the minimum by adding these grub-mkrescue
> arguments:
>
>   -- -- -fs 64k -padding 64k
>
> If the fifo is to blame, then a padding of 64k should suffice to protect
> the valuable blocks from a premature end.

OK, I’ll try to test this, but note that I’ll be largely unavailable for
a week.

>> the documentation of “-padding” suggests
>> that this kind of problem is not uncommon.
>
> It's normal purpose is to work around a traditional Linux kernel bug:
>
> CDs written with write type Track-At-Once bear two unreadable blocks at
> the end. Most CD drives report these blocks as part of the data range.
> When Linux shall read a single block for isofs, it reads a larger chunk.
> The chunk is not large enough to reach over the nominal end of the data
> range, but it can reach the unreadable end blocks by mistake.
> In this case Linux does not only miss the end blocks but also valid
> payload blocks which are part of the filesystem. This yields I/O error.
>
> The developer of cdrecord and the kernel people mistake this problem
> for a "fuzziness" of a CD end by at most 2 seconds of audio play time.
> This is wrong from reading the specs and from making experiments.
> However, cdrecord introduced the tradition to add 150 blocks of padding
> which would 2 seconds of sound.
> As long as the read chunk of Linux is smaller than that, the padding
> protects the operating system from touching the lead-out blocks of the
> TAO track.
>
> This cannot happen on hard disk or any optical media type other than CD.
> If you write the CD by Session-At-Once it cannot happen. If you have one
> of the rare CD drives which do not count the lead-out blocks to the
> readable size of the CD, it cannot happen. (Currently 1 of my 7 drives
> tells the truth.)
>
> But who am i to stand against all others ?
> So xorriso, too, adds 300 KiB of padding by default.

I see, thanks for explaining!

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-07 22:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-06  0:02 bug#33639: ISO installer image is broken on i686 Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06  7:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 10:34   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 14:08     ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-06 15:34       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 16:59         ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-15 18:40         ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-15 19:24           ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-16 15:52           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-16 16:52             ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-18 11:16               ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-18 21:45                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-19 14:05                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-19 14:51                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-20 13:38                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-21 20:44                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-21 21:42                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-07 20:18                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-07 21:35                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-08  8:50                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-09 22:13                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-10 11:17                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-10 21:23                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-12 21:26                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-13  6:37                                         ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-13 13:46                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-13 16:20                                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-14 21:43                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15  6:07                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-15  8:16                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-15  8:35                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-19 11:40                                             ` bug#35283: ISO images are not reproducible Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-19 12:46                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 22:57                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-21  8:17                                                   ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-21 16:42                                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-21 18:44                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 23:03                                                 ` bug#35283: [PATCH] mformat: initialize boot sector before writing it Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-21 16:32                                                 ` bug#35283: [PATCH] grub-mkrescue: Allow users to specify a FAT serial number Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-14 15:47                                           ` bug#33639: ISO installer image is broken on i686 Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15 16:54                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-15 17:55                                             ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-16  9:57                                               ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-04-16 13:40                                                 ` ISO installer image: GPT versus MBR partitions (was bug#33639) Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-16 16:32                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-16 17:57                                                     ` ISO installer image: GPT versus MBR partitions Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-16 19:55                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-16 20:31                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-16 21:15                                                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-17  8:59                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-17 10:23                                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-17 10:30                                                                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-17 15:51                                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-17 22:35                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-18  6:32                                                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-18  7:00                                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-18  7:07                                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-18  8:13                                                                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-18 12:19                                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-18 13:50                                                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-18 21:28                                                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-19  7:29                                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19  8:03                                                                                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19  9:01                                                                                   ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-19  9:39                                                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 10:58                                                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-19 14:57                                                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 11:30                                                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 18:33                                                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 19:23                                                                                         ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 10:26                                                                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 10:50                                                                                             ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 11:16                                                                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 11:29                                                                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 14:23                                                                                                   ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 14:54                                                                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 15:17                                                                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 15:33                                                                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 16:32                                                                                                         ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-21  7:58                                                                                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-21  9:35                                                                                                             ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-21 11:10                                                                                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-21 11:16                                                                                                             ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-21 11:56                                                                                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-21 12:27                                                                                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-21 14:11                                                                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-21 14:36                                                                                                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-22 13:11                                                                                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-23 16:40                                                                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-23 17:23                                                                                                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-17 12:24                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-17 13:42                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-23 18:14                                                   ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-23 19:50                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-23 20:18                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-23 21:43                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-24  6:56                                                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-24  9:13                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-24 10:34                                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-24 22:13                                                                 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-25  7:07                                                                   ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-25  9:45                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-25 13:44                                                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-25 14:59                                                                       ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-25 16:22                                                                         ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-25 17:55                                                                           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-25 18:46                                                                             ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-25 19:01                                                                               ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-25 16:34                                                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-26 11:34                                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-26 14:41                                                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-26 15:30                                                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-26 13:57                                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-27 13:20                                                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-27 16:24                                                                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-28 12:53                                                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-25 11:49                                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-25 15:09                                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-25 15:58                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-25 16:40                                                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-16  9:57                                               ` bug#33639: ISO installer image is broken on i686 Gábor Boskovits
2019-04-16 21:01                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-17  9:03                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2018-12-06 16:28       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 17:29         ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-07 22:51           ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2018-12-08 12:42             ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-06  9:35 ` swedebugia

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