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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Cc: bug-xorriso@gnu.org, 35283@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#35283: ISO images are not reproducible
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 13:40:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875zrafck7.fsf_-_@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3867672606037906126@scdbackup.webframe.org> (Thomas Schmitt's message of "Sat, 13 Apr 2019 18:20:57 +0200")

Hi,

(Moving discussion to <https://issues.guix.info/issue/35283>, which is
specifically about ISO image reproducibility issues.)

"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> skribis:

> Florian Pelz wrote:
>>  The content is different at the beginning of the ISO image
>> (maybe padding or timestamps in the file system)
>
> That's to expect if not environment SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH is set and exported.
>
> SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH belongs to the specs of reproducible-builds.org. It
> is supposed to be either undefined or to contain a decimal number which
> tells the seconds since january 1st 1970. If it contains a number, then
> it is used for all timestamps and as seed of pseudo-random numbers like
> MBR id or GPT UUIDs.
>
> If all files and directories have the same names and the same content,
> then xorriso runs with the same arguments and the same SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH
> value are supposed to create byte-identical result ISOs.

By mounting the ISO image, I found that some files didn’t have their
timestamp reset: some files in /var/guix (easily fixed), but more
importantly those added by GRUB in /boot and /System.

Files added by ‘grub-mkrescue’ are “out of our control” so we would need
to patch ‘grub-mkrescue’ to honor SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH, for example.

However, after rereading the Xorriso manual, it seemed to me that if we
set SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH and pass:

  -volume_date all_file_dates set_to_mtime

then all the files would have the mtime specified by SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH,
which would solve the problem.

I tried it, but that’s not what happened.  What am I missing, Thomas?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-19 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-06  0:02 bug#33639: ISO installer image is broken on i686 Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06  7:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 10:34   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 14:08     ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-06 15:34       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 16:59         ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-15 18:40         ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-15 19:24           ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-16 15:52           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-16 16:52             ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-18 11:16               ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-18 21:45                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-19 14:05                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-19 14:51                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-20 13:38                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-21 20:44                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-21 21:42                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-07 20:18                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-07 21:35                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-08  8:50                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-09 22:13                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-10 11:17                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-10 21:23                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-12 21:26                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-13  6:37                                         ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-13 13:46                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-13 16:20                                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-14 21:43                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15  6:07                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-15  8:16                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-15  8:35                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-19 11:40                                             ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2019-04-19 12:46                                               ` bug#35283: ISO images are not reproducible Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 22:57                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-21  8:17                                                   ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-21 16:42                                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-21 18:44                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 23:03                                                 ` bug#35283: [PATCH] mformat: initialize boot sector before writing it Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-21 16:32                                                 ` bug#35283: [PATCH] grub-mkrescue: Allow users to specify a FAT serial number Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-14 15:47                                           ` bug#33639: ISO installer image is broken on i686 Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15 16:54                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-15 17:55                                             ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-16  9:57                                               ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-04-16 13:40                                                 ` ISO installer image: GPT versus MBR partitions (was bug#33639) Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-16 16:32                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-16 17:57                                                     ` ISO installer image: GPT versus MBR partitions Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-16 19:55                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-16 20:31                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-16 21:15                                                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-17  8:59                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-17 10:23                                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-17 10:30                                                                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-17 15:51                                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-17 22:35                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-18  6:32                                                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-18  7:00                                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-18  7:07                                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-18  8:13                                                                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-18 12:19                                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-18 13:50                                                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-18 21:28                                                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-19  7:29                                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19  8:03                                                                                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19  9:01                                                                                   ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-19  9:39                                                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 10:58                                                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-19 14:57                                                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 11:30                                                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 18:33                                                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 19:23                                                                                         ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 10:26                                                                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 10:50                                                                                             ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 11:16                                                                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 11:29                                                                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 14:23                                                                                                   ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-20 14:54                                                                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 15:17                                                                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 15:33                                                                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 16:32                                                                                                         ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-21  7:58                                                                                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-21  9:35                                                                                                             ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-21 11:10                                                                                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-21 11:16                                                                                                             ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-21 11:56                                                                                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-21 12:27                                                                                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-21 14:11                                                                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-21 14:36                                                                                                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-22 13:11                                                                                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-23 16:40                                                                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-23 17:23                                                                                                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-17 12:24                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-17 13:42                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-23 18:14                                                   ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-23 19:50                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-23 20:18                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-23 21:43                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-24  6:56                                                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-24  9:13                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-24 10:34                                                               ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-24 22:13                                                                 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-25  7:07                                                                   ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-25  9:45                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-25 13:44                                                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-25 14:59                                                                       ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-25 16:22                                                                         ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-25 17:55                                                                           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-25 18:46                                                                             ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-25 19:01                                                                               ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-25 16:34                                                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-26 11:34                                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-26 14:41                                                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-26 15:30                                                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-26 13:57                                                                       ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-27 13:20                                                                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-27 16:24                                                                           ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-28 12:53                                                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-25 11:49                                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-25 15:09                                                                 ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-25 15:58                                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-25 16:40                                                                     ` Thomas Schmitt
2019-04-16  9:57                                               ` bug#33639: ISO installer image is broken on i686 Gábor Boskovits
2019-04-16 21:01                                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-17  9:03                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2018-12-06 16:28       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-06 17:29         ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-07 22:51           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-12-08 12:42             ` Thomas Schmitt
2018-12-06  9:35 ` swedebugia
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-04-15  7:46 bug#35283: ISO images are not reproducible Ludovic Courtès

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