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From: Timothy Sample <samplet@ngyro.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Status update on 1.0
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 23:54:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1h2p0v1.fsf@ngyro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871s3a4xd4.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Wed, 13 Mar 2019 16:17:43 +0100")

Hi Ludo,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Hello Guix!
>
> When we said we’d try to release 1.0 for FOSDEM, we were talking about
> FOSDEM *2019*, which is well over now, so I think we need to get our act
> together and complete the remaining tasks for 1.0.  :-)
>
> Looking at the
> <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/maintenance.git/tree/doc/1.0.org>
> plus my own memories, here are work items that still need to be
> addressed:
>
> [...]
>
>   • GDM works well for GNOME and WMs that provide a .session file.
>     However it still doesn’t honor ~/.xsession.  We discussed it before
>     and dropped the ball.  Timothy, what’s missing?  I’d really like to
>     make it the default.

Nothing is missing!  As promised [1], in the last patch series I made
GDM run our custom “xinitrc” script instead of the built-in one.  This
happened in commit 41fa9f1815685ede0d3fdc1c561d2a9cf0ffb158.  :)

(I tested this now to be absolutely sure, and it works like a charm.)

>   • GDM’s closure is 1.3 GiB, we should do something about it.

Yes.  We should be working on “guix size gnome-shell”.  It more
accurately reflects the size of GDM, and (I hope you’re sitting down) it
weighs in at 2GiB!

Fortunately, it looks like we could claw back ~400MiB by (somehow)
dropping “hplip-minimal”.  It gets pulled in through the path

    gdm → gnome-settings-daemon → colord → sane-backends →
    hplip-minimal.

We almost certainly don’t need it for GDM.  I guess removing it means
making a version of “colord” without “sane-backends”.  It was introduced
in commit 4c9287432824f396d5c614c3b2287f553cd9fb90.  I’ll look into
this.

GNOME Shell has a handful of silly references like “inkscape” and
“webkitgtk” that are huge and (I assume) unnecessary.

There seems to be a handful of easy wins.  I would be surprised if we
could get the closure of “gnome-shell” below 1GiB, but we will see.
Also, keep in mind that a lot of these bytes will be recycled.  For
instance, GTK+ 3 is ~700MiB, and chances are there will be at least one
GTK+ 3 application besides GDM.


[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00198.html


-- Tim

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-14  4:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-13 15:17 Status update on 1.0 Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-13 15:32 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-13 16:00   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-13 18:33     ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-03-13 18:47       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-15 12:54         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-15 13:06           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-15 16:48           ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-03-14  2:26       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-03-15 12:53   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-13 16:34 ` mikadoZero
2019-03-13 17:08   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-13 18:14     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-03-13 19:43       ` L p R n d n
2019-03-14 13:54       ` L p R n d n
2019-03-15 12:57       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-15 13:56         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-03-13 20:53     ` mikadoZero
2019-03-14  3:54 ` Timothy Sample [this message]
2019-03-15 13:47   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-15 17:44     ` Timothy Sample
2019-03-23 16:36       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-21 18:49     ` Timothy Sample
2019-03-23 16:42       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-28  3:28         ` Timothy Sample
2019-03-14 21:16 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-03-15 13:51   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-15 18:31     ` Thompson, David
2019-03-15 19:20       ` Gábor Boskovits
     [not found]         ` <CAN1Dt4SQzXJOK2bJF47cFO5ERg9=uf8wktH=arJ=AypEUnO2yw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-03-21  0:52           ` Fwd: " Kristofer Buffington
2019-03-21 14:59             ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-03-27 15:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-27 15:29   ` znavko
2019-03-27 23:10   ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-03-29 16:07     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-28  0:09   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-03-29 16:13     ` KMScon vs. AMD Radeon Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-29 16:35       ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-03-29 18:00         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-03-30  7:25           ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-03-30  8:40             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-30 15:22               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-01 13:58                 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-01 20:01                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-02  7:53                     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-02 16:31                       ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-03  5:11                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-03  7:19                           ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-03  7:34                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-03 11:13                             ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-03 20:46                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-03  7:37                         ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-03 11:19                           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-03 18:56                             ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-03 20:48                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-03 21:02                                 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-04  5:02                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-04  7:38                                     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-04 13:49                                       ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-04 16:07                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-06  9:05                                           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-06 11:03                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-14  9:48                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-14 20:54                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-15 12:09                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-17 17:26                                                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-18  7:05                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 12:19                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-18 21:47                                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-19 12:17                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 15:17                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-19 17:11                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20  8:59                                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20  9:47                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-20 10:10                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 10:16                                                             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-20 10:39                                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 11:21                                                                 ` Félicien Pillot
2019-04-20 12:30                                                                   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-20 12:37                                                                     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-21 19:57                                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-22  8:46                                                                         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-22 11:48                                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-22 18:34                                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-26  8:35                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-02  9:26                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-02 11:42                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-03  4:17                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-03  9:17                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-03  9:00                     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-07 16:10     ` Installer & locales Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-07 16:12     ` Installer & services Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-08  9:26       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-01 19:34   ` Status update on 1.0 mikadoZero
2019-04-02  8:05     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-28 13:46 ` Marius Bakke
2019-03-29 16:11   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-29 18:56     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-31 20:52       ` ‘staging’ and GNOME updates Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-01 17:16         ` Efraim Flashner
2019-04-01 19:36           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-10 16:53         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-10 21:13           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-10 21:13           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-11 19:33             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-13 17:46               ` Timothy Sample
2019-04-13 18:07                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-15 12:13                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15 12:34               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15 21:55                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15 22:33                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-16  4:59                     ` Timothy Sample
2019-04-16  9:31                       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-16 20:14                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-22 10:15                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-23  7:17                           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-23  7:20                             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-23 10:28                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-23 18:18                               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-24  4:10                                 ` Timothy Sample
2019-04-24  6:54                                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-24 19:19                                     ` Timothy Sample
2019-04-25 12:57                                       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-25 15:33                                       ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-04-10 13:41       ` Status update on 1.0 Jonathan Brielmaier
2019-04-10 16:56         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-10 17:57           ` Jonathan Brielmaier
2019-04-10 19:05             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-17 12:49 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-17 13:38   ` TeX Live Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-17 14:04     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-18 14:39       ` Ricardo Wurmus

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