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From: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
To: Timothy Sample <samplet@ngyro.com>
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: ‘staging’ and GNOME updates
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 20:07:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ef653hjn.fsf@elephly.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v9zhdcit.fsf@ngyro.com>


Hey Tim,

>> Turns out that the problem was with a stale /var/lib/gdm – which makes
>> me wonder: we do we have this at all?  “/var/lib/gdm” is the “gdm” user
>> account’s home directory.  But it’s not like this really needs to be
>> persistent, I think.
>>
>> I moved it out of the way and the gdm login prompt appeared within a few
>> seconds.  After restarting xorg-server the directory was recreated.
>>
>> Now, I *still* cannot actually log in, but the problem is likely very
>> similar.
>>
>> [two minutes pass]
>>
>> Yup, after moving /home/rekado/.cache out of the way, everything is fine
>> and I can log in.
>>
>> What should we do about this?  For gdm I think it would make sense to
>> add an activation service extension that clears the gdm user’s home
>> directory.  And more generally, maybe we should offer a generic cache
>> cleaner service.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
> I had a similar issue where the UID of the “gdm” user had changed
> between reconfigures.  I think it happened because I removed the GDM
> service for a while and then brought it back.  It took me a while to
> figure it out, because of course everything looks fine at first glance.
> However, GDM could no longer access “/var/lib/gdm”, and I had to remove
> it to fix the problem.
>
> The X.org logs all end up in that directory, so it might a little
> frustrating for someone having X.org issues if we delete that directory
> all the time.  I don’t remember if they get copied anywhere else.

Can we cause the logs to be put in /var/log with all the other logs?

> Maybe it would make more sense to delete the “/var/lib/gdm/.cache”
> folder and ensure the permissions of the rest of it in an activation
> script.  WDYT?

That would work, too, though the .local directory (this time in my own
user’s home directory) has proven to be harmful in my past work on GNOME
upgrades.

--
Ricardo

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-13 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-13 15:17 Status update on 1.0 Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-13 15:32 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-13 16:00   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-13 18:33     ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-03-13 18:47       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-15 12:54         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-15 13:06           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-15 16:48           ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-03-14  2:26       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-03-15 12:53   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-13 16:34 ` mikadoZero
2019-03-13 17:08   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-13 18:14     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-03-13 19:43       ` L p R n d n
2019-03-14 13:54       ` L p R n d n
2019-03-15 12:57       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-15 13:56         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-03-13 20:53     ` mikadoZero
2019-03-14  3:54 ` Timothy Sample
2019-03-15 13:47   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-15 17:44     ` Timothy Sample
2019-03-23 16:36       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-21 18:49     ` Timothy Sample
2019-03-23 16:42       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-28  3:28         ` Timothy Sample
2019-03-14 21:16 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-03-15 13:51   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-15 18:31     ` Thompson, David
2019-03-15 19:20       ` Gábor Boskovits
     [not found]         ` <CAN1Dt4SQzXJOK2bJF47cFO5ERg9=uf8wktH=arJ=AypEUnO2yw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-03-21  0:52           ` Fwd: " Kristofer Buffington
2019-03-21 14:59             ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-03-27 15:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-27 15:29   ` znavko
2019-03-27 23:10   ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-03-29 16:07     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-28  0:09   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-03-29 16:13     ` KMScon vs. AMD Radeon Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-29 16:35       ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-03-29 18:00         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-03-30  7:25           ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-03-30  8:40             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-30 15:22               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-01 13:58                 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-01 20:01                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-02  7:53                     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-02 16:31                       ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-03  5:11                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-03  7:19                           ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-03  7:34                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-03 11:13                             ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-03 20:46                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-03  7:37                         ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-03 11:19                           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-03 18:56                             ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-03 20:48                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-03 21:02                                 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-04  5:02                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-04  7:38                                     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-04 13:49                                       ` Mathieu Othacehe
2019-04-04 16:07                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-06  9:05                                           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2019-04-06 11:03                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-14  9:48                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-14 20:54                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-15 12:09                                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-17 17:26                                                 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-18  7:05                                                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 12:19                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-18 21:47                                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-19 12:17                                                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-19 15:17                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-19 17:11                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20  8:59                                                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20  9:47                                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-20 10:10                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 10:16                                                             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-20 10:39                                                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-20 11:21                                                                 ` Félicien Pillot
2019-04-20 12:30                                                                   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-20 12:37                                                                     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-21 19:57                                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-22  8:46                                                                         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-22 11:48                                                                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-22 18:34                                                                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-26  8:35                                                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-02  9:26                     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-02 11:42                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-03  4:17                         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-03  9:17                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-04-03  9:00                     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-07 16:10     ` Installer & locales Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-07 16:12     ` Installer & services Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-08  9:26       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-01 19:34   ` Status update on 1.0 mikadoZero
2019-04-02  8:05     ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-28 13:46 ` Marius Bakke
2019-03-29 16:11   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-29 18:56     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-31 20:52       ` ‘staging’ and GNOME updates Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-01 17:16         ` Efraim Flashner
2019-04-01 19:36           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-10 16:53         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-10 21:13           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-10 21:13           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-11 19:33             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-13 17:46               ` Timothy Sample
2019-04-13 18:07                 ` Ricardo Wurmus [this message]
2019-04-15 12:13                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15 12:34               ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15 21:55                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-15 22:33                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-16  4:59                     ` Timothy Sample
2019-04-16  9:31                       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-16 20:14                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-22 10:15                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-23  7:17                           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-23  7:20                             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-23 10:28                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-23 18:18                               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-24  4:10                                 ` Timothy Sample
2019-04-24  6:54                                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-24 19:19                                     ` Timothy Sample
2019-04-25 12:57                                       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-25 15:33                                       ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-04-10 13:41       ` Status update on 1.0 Jonathan Brielmaier
2019-04-10 16:56         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-10 17:57           ` Jonathan Brielmaier
2019-04-10 19:05             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-04-17 12:49 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-17 13:38   ` TeX Live Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-17 14:04     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-04-18 14:39       ` Ricardo Wurmus

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