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From: "Clément Lassieur" <clement@lassieur.org>
To: Suhail <suhail@bayesians.ca>
Cc: Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz>,  Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>,
	 Steve George <steve@futurile.net>,
	 guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Guix Days: Patch flow discussion
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2024 18:36:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eddq95ks.fsf@lassieur.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <34679.2393991322$1707153777@news.gmane.org> (suhail@bayesians.ca's message of "Mon, 05 Feb 2024 17:21:38 +0000")

On Mon, Feb 05 2024, Suhail wrote:

> Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> writes:
>
>> In ideal world, there would always be *some* reaction from the
>> project, even if that reaction would be "we do not want this change".
>
> Agreed.  A reduction in the time between a patch (or patch revision)
> submission and a review/reaction would be a positive change in my
> opinion.
>
>> Even if it would be just an auto-close (for the "contributor can't
>> work effectively..." case).
>
> Are there current instances of "contributor can't work effectively"?  If
> not, I propose that decisions concerning those situations be deferred
> till we have actual instances to guide us.
>
>> Or, to put it in a different way: The problem is not that too few patches get
>> merged.  The problem is that too few patches get reviewed.
>
> Agreed.
>
> I believe the below steps would help with the current situation, and
> perhaps both should be pursued (among possibly others).
>
> 1. It would help to eliminate the need for review in certain kinds of
>    patches.  Some version upgrades for a package $foo where there exists
>    no package $bar that depends on $foo may fall in this category.  More
>    generally, some "known to be safe with reasonable confidence" changes
>    may be safe to be auto-committed without needing manual review.

I think "auto-commit" is a bit too much, but tagging a patch as "can be
pushed" could make it easy for committers to find them and push them.

>    Recognizing such changes could be challenging, but we don't have to
>    correctly label all such changes in order for this to be helpful.
>
> 2. It would help if it were easier for the community to be able to identify the next
>    steps, given a patch submission.  It might help to (more?) clearly
>    differentiate between the below states:
>    - patch *needs review* (automatically set)
>    - patch *needs revision* (set explicitly by the reviewer, say, by
>      using a specific keyword in their email)
>    - patch *needs followup review* (automatically set if there's a
>      revised patch)
>    - patch has a *satisfied reviewer* (set explicitly by the reviewer,
>      say, by using a specific keyword in their email)

+1

Ideally with debbugs tags.

(Patches that don't need review should be tagged as well.)


       reply	other threads:[~2024-02-05 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <34679.2393991322$1707153777@news.gmane.org>
2024-02-05 17:36 ` Clément Lassieur [this message]
2024-02-18  2:31 Guix Days: Patch flow discussion Suhail
     [not found] <35786.5440238797$1707248619@news.gmane.org>
2024-02-16 10:56 ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-16 11:03   ` Andreas Enge
2024-02-16 11:28     ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-16 12:06       ` Christopher Baines
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-02-06 21:01 Suhail
2024-02-06 20:00 Suhail
2024-02-07 13:41 ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-07 13:46   ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-11 17:24     ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-02-22  5:42       ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-11 20:04     ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-11 20:21       ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-11 20:39         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-11 22:08           ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-12 10:35       ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-12 11:19         ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-12 15:57         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-13  9:31           ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-13 14:30             ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-14  9:21               ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-07 14:30   ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-07 20:18   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-02-08  2:39     ` Kyle Meyer
2024-02-11 16:38       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-02-14 15:48         ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 11:07           ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-15 12:45             ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 11:45           ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-15 11:51             ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-15 15:32               ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-15 17:19                 ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-16 14:27               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-02-15 13:06             ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 17:24               ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-15 18:40                 ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 22:08                   ` Clément Lassieur
2024-03-01 22:04                   ` Attila Lendvai
2024-02-16 14:25           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-02-06 19:47 Suhail
2024-02-06 19:42 Suhail
2024-02-05 21:45 Suhail
     [not found] <65c12e7e.0c0a0220.d7729.823cSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-02-05 19:52 ` Felix Lechner via
2024-02-05 19:33 Andy Tai
2024-02-05 20:50 ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-06  7:58   ` Andy Tai
2024-02-05 18:51 Suhail
2024-02-06 16:51 ` Steve George
2024-02-05 18:44 Suhail
2024-02-05 19:59 ` Hartmut Goebel
2024-02-06 11:14   ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-05 17:21 Suhail
2024-02-05 17:25 ` Vivien Kraus
2024-02-06 11:27 ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-05  9:39 Steve George
2024-02-05 14:07 ` Leo Famulari
2024-02-05 15:00   ` Tomas Volf
2024-02-05 22:08     ` Wilko Meyer
2024-02-06 11:49       ` Tomas Volf
2024-02-06 12:09         ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-06 12:53           ` Tomas Volf
2024-02-05 21:57   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 15:57 ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-05 17:10   ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-05 17:28     ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-05 18:27       ` Felix Lechner via
2024-02-05 18:50         ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-05 22:10   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 18:07 ` Hartmut Goebel
2024-02-05 22:29   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:32   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:32   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:33   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:50   ` Steve George
2024-02-06 13:27 ` Edouard Klein
2024-02-06 13:39   ` Steve George
2024-02-08 19:56     ` Skyler Ferris
2024-02-09 16:35       ` Edouard Klein
2024-02-09 16:46         ` Andreas Enge
2024-02-11 10:03         ` Steve George
2024-02-14 21:40 ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-28 17:51   ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-02-28 19:21     ` Matt
2024-02-29 15:41       ` Daniel Littlewood
2024-02-29 18:09         ` Andreas Enge

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