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From: Wilko Meyer <w@wmeyer.eu>
To: Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz>
Cc: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>,
	Steve George <steve@futurile.net>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Guix Days: Patch flow discussion
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2024 23:08:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871q9q4g27.fsf@wmeyer.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZcD3_Oh_qgW1QD9R@ws>


Hi Guix,

Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> writes:

> Or, to put it in a different way: The problem is not that too few patches get
> merged.  The problem is that too few patches get reviewed.

I'd say that both things stem from the same premise, a disproportion of
available resources to the work that exists. This is not something
specific to Guix as a project, but can be observed in many other
projects as well (I couldn't name one larger free software or open
source project without this issue, but could easily name some where this
applies). The interests of a contributer sending a patch sometimes may
not align with the interests of the project/sometimes may not align with
the interests of commiters and so on. This happens and is a pretty
common reason for contributions being ignored and I see that as somewhat
a default modus operandi in many projects. Especially if available time
is a rather sparse resource.

I'd like to suggest to explicity refer to pragmatic ways forward in
Guixes Contributing manual section that don't rely on the availability
of other peoples (in this case committers/reviewers) time while
empowering contributors to use their changes in a good way if a patch
doesn't make it in/a bug report gets no reaction? Guix offers ways to
use packages outside of Guix proper in a pretty feasible and
maintainable way (manifests, setting up channels), maybe promoting them
as an alternative to having things in guix proper "as soon as possible"
(as that's not the only option to have things in a usable form) would be
beneficial.

-- 
Kind regards,

Wilko Meyer
w@wmeyer.eu


  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-06  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-05  9:39 Guix Days: Patch flow discussion Steve George
2024-02-05 14:07 ` Leo Famulari
2024-02-05 15:00   ` Tomas Volf
2024-02-05 22:08     ` Wilko Meyer [this message]
2024-02-06 11:49       ` Tomas Volf
2024-02-06 12:09         ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-06 12:53           ` Tomas Volf
2024-02-28 16:05             ` simple service extensions/composizions (Re: Guix Days: Patch flow discussion) Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-02-05 21:57   ` Guix Days: Patch flow discussion Steve George
2024-02-05 15:57 ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-05 17:10   ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-05 17:28     ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-05 18:27       ` Felix Lechner via
2024-02-05 18:50         ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-05 22:10   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 18:07 ` Hartmut Goebel
2024-02-05 22:29   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:32   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:32   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:33   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:50   ` Steve George
2024-02-08 11:59     ` patch workflow without emacs (Was: Re: Guix Days: Patch flow discussion) Efraim Flashner
2024-02-06 13:27 ` Guix Days: Patch flow discussion Edouard Klein
2024-02-06 13:39   ` Steve George
2024-02-08 19:56     ` Skyler Ferris
2024-02-09 16:35       ` Edouard Klein
2024-02-09 16:46         ` Andreas Enge
2024-02-11 10:03         ` Steve George
2024-02-14 21:40 ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-28 17:51   ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-02-28 19:21     ` Matt
2024-02-29 15:41       ` Daniel Littlewood
2024-02-29 18:09         ` Andreas Enge
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-02-05 17:21 Suhail
2024-02-05 17:25 ` Vivien Kraus
2024-02-06 11:27 ` Josselin Poiret
     [not found] <34679.2393991322$1707153777@news.gmane.org>
2024-02-05 17:36 ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-05 18:44 Suhail
2024-02-05 19:59 ` Hartmut Goebel
2024-02-06 11:14   ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-05 18:51 Suhail
2024-02-06 16:51 ` Steve George
2024-02-05 19:33 Andy Tai
2024-02-05 20:50 ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-06  7:58   ` Andy Tai
     [not found] <65c12e7e.0c0a0220.d7729.823cSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-02-05 19:52 ` Felix Lechner via
2024-02-05 21:45 Suhail
2024-02-06 19:42 Suhail
2024-02-06 19:47 Suhail
2024-02-06 20:00 Suhail
2024-02-07 13:41 ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-07 13:46   ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-11 17:24     ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-02-22  5:42       ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-11 20:04     ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-11 20:21       ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-11 20:39         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-11 22:08           ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-12 10:35       ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-12 11:19         ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-12 15:57         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-13  9:31           ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-13 14:30             ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-14  9:21               ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-07 14:30   ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-07 20:18   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-02-08  2:39     ` Kyle Meyer
2024-02-11 16:38       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-02-14 15:48         ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 11:07           ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-15 12:45             ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 11:45           ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-15 11:51             ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-15 15:32               ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-15 17:19                 ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-16 14:27               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-02-15 13:06             ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 17:24               ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-15 18:40                 ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 22:08                   ` Clément Lassieur
2024-03-01 22:04                   ` Attila Lendvai
2024-02-16 14:25           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-02-06 21:01 Suhail
     [not found] <35786.5440238797$1707248619@news.gmane.org>
2024-02-16 10:56 ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-16 11:03   ` Andreas Enge
2024-02-16 11:28     ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-16 12:06       ` Christopher Baines
2024-02-18  2:31 Suhail

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