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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
Cc: Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz>,
	Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>,
	Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>,
	Mathieu Othacehe <othacehe@gnu.org>,
	Christopher Baines <mail@cbaines.net>,
	64188@debbugs.gnu.org, Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
Subject: [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8]  More package tuning
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 22:47:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkh3z2tt.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1687247150.git.efraim@flashner.co.il> (Efraim Flashner's message of "Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:48:46 +0300")

Hello Efraim,

Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> skribis:

> with gcc-11, gcc gained support for using -march=x86_64-v{1,2,3,4},
> which I'm calling 'generic options,' as opposed to the more targeted
> tuning we have with specific architectures.

I don’t think these x86_64 psABI “architecture levels” should be treated
specially:

  • From the point of view of ‘--tune’, they’re just another value that
    may be passed to ‘-march’.

  • My understanding is that those levels don’t match reality: as
    discussed in the original ‘--tune’ patch¹, CPUs actually produced
    don’t follow a pattern of strictly including features of one set.
    They’re really just a simplification to get more memorizable names,
    but it’s hard to tell whether a given CPU really covers the set of
    features of a given level.

Overall, my take on this would be to add supported levels to
‘%gcc-11-x86_64-micro-architectures’ & co., without going further.

WDYT?

¹ https://issues.guix.gnu.org/52283#0-lineno48

[...]

> go cpu tuning targets: I mostly used the chart¹ on the go website, and I
> also checked the source code for go-1.18. I put in arm{5,6,7} as arm and
> not armhf since armhf only works with armv7 and with go programs, since
> they're statically linked, they can just be copied to other machines.

Now if Go uses those names, (guix cpu) can provide helpers.

Thanks,
Ludo’.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-25 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-20  7:48 [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8] More package tuning Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20  7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 1/8] gnu: %gcc-11-x86_64-micro-architectures: Add generic options Efraim Flashner
2023-06-25 20:49   ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8] More package tuning Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-20  7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 2/8] guix: cpu: Add inexact CPU matching Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20  7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 3/8] guix: cpu: Rewrite fallback for x86_64 cpu->gcc-architecture Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20  7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 4/8] guix: cpu: Refactor cpu->gcc-architecture Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20  7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 5/8] gnu: go: Add CPU tuning targets Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20  7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 6/8] transformations: Allow tuning go packages Efraim Flashner
2023-06-25 20:52   ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8] More package tuning Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-26  8:34     ` Efraim Flashner
2023-07-13 15:27       ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-07-17 12:02         ` Efraim Flashner
2023-07-17 15:41           ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-07-18 11:17             ` Efraim Flashner
2023-07-19  8:39               ` Josselin Poiret via Guix-patches via
2023-08-07  7:33               ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-08-21 16:54                 ` bug#64188: " Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-20  7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 7/8] guix: cpu: Add gcc-architecture->generic-architecture mapping Efraim Flashner
2023-06-25 20:54   ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8] More package tuning Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-26  8:34     ` Efraim Flashner
2023-06-20  7:51 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 8/8] transformations: Allow autotuning for go packages Efraim Flashner
2023-06-25 20:47 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2023-06-26  8:34   ` [bug#64188] [PATCH 0/8] More package tuning Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38 ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 0/7] " Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38   ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 1/7] gnu: %gcc-11-x86_64-micro-architectures: Add psabi entries Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38   ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 2/7] guix: cpu: Add generalized CPU matching Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38   ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 3/7] guix: cpu: Rewrite fallback for x86_64 cpu->gcc-architecture Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38   ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 4/7] guix: cpu: Refactor cpu->gcc-architecture Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38   ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 5/7] guix: cpu: Add gcc-architecture->micro-architecture-level mapping Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38   ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 6/7] gnu: go: Add CPU tuning targets Efraim Flashner
2023-06-26 12:38   ` [bug#64188] [PATCH v2 7/7] transformations: Allow tuning go packages Efraim Flashner

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