bug#67292: emacs / emacs-transient collisions and bundling

[Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>]

On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 at 02:47, Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> wrote:

>> Once builtin, the code of a package distributed with GNU Emacs is
>> maintained by Emacs maintainers and fully part of GNU Emacs.
>
> Yes, and?  How does being fully part of GNU Emacs and being maintained 
> by Emacs maintainers make it any less bundling?  There is more to 
> development than maintenance.

Please read GNU Emacs documentation and how GNU Emacs is developed.  I
have tried to do my best for pointing you some links.  If these are not
enough, you should dig by your own.  Maybe ask on emacs-devel mailing
list how the GNU Emacs development process works.

> If making emacs-mnimal more minimal is too complicated, don't do it 
> then, just replace the bundled copy with an up-to-date (source) version, 
> as I proposed previously.

This is *not* the GNU Emacs release model.  GNU Emacs version X.Y *is*
all the exact same files as the ones stored in Savannah.  If you want to
replace the file
/gnu/store/…-emacs-X.Y/share/emacs/X.Y/lisp/transient.el.gz by something
else, you need to package that exact file.  Therefore, your proposal
would imply to have two packages:

 + emacs-transient-next following development of transient.el – this
   development happens outside Savannah.  Please note for other builtin
   packages, this development happens inside the Emacs repository
   located in Savannah.

 + emacs-transient providing the exact same version as the builtin one
   tracked in the GNU Emacs release X.Y branch located in Savannah.

Again, transient.el is not bundled.  It is a builtin package which means
it is fully part of GNU Emacs.  Being developed outside Savannah does
not make it bundled.


Regards,
simon