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Tue, 28 Nov 2023 03:42:53 -0800 (PST) From: Simon Tournier In-Reply-To: References: <5b74251c-e6ab-bb39-7892-3a792ed6854d@telenet.be> <86r0kk208a.fsf@gmail.com> <87fs0xpl1t.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:45:57 +0100 Message-ID: <868r6igqi2.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9D5E9636B6 X-Spam-Score: -5.02 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.02 X-TUID: N1+V9iVQR+uG On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 at 02:47, Maxime Devos wrote: >> Once builtin, the code of a package distributed with GNU Emacs is >> maintained by Emacs maintainers and fully part of GNU Emacs. > > Yes, and? How does being fully part of GNU Emacs and being maintained=20 > by Emacs maintainers make it any less bundling? There is more to=20 > development than maintenance. Please read GNU Emacs documentation and how GNU Emacs is developed. I have tried to do my best for pointing you some links. If these are not enough, you should dig by your own. Maybe ask on emacs-devel mailing list how the GNU Emacs development process works. > If making emacs-mnimal more minimal is too complicated, don't do it=20 > then, just replace the bundled copy with an up-to-date (source) version,= =20 > as I proposed previously. This is *not* the GNU Emacs release model. GNU Emacs version X.Y *is* all the exact same files as the ones stored in Savannah. If you want to replace the file /gnu/store/=E2=80=A6-emacs-X.Y/share/emacs/X.Y/lisp/transient.el.gz by some= thing else, you need to package that exact file. Therefore, your proposal would imply to have two packages: + emacs-transient-next following development of transient.el =E2=80=93 this development happens outside Savannah. Please note for other builtin packages, this development happens inside the Emacs repository located in Savannah. + emacs-transient providing the exact same version as the builtin one tracked in the GNU Emacs release X.Y branch located in Savannah. Again, transient.el is not bundled. It is a builtin package which means it is fully part of GNU Emacs. Being developed outside Savannah does not make it bundled. Regards, simon