Newbie: Run previous version of Inkscape that exists in /gnu/store

Newbie: Run previous version of Inkscape that exists in /gnu/store

[Rodrigo Morales]

The /gnu/store of my system contains two versions (1.1.1 and 1.2.1) of
Inkscape that are already built (see last two lines below)

,----
| find /gnu/store -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -name '*inkscape*' -exec du
-hs {} + | sort -h
`----

,----
| 4.0K    /gnu/store/500rmmh2b0m4abmhs3pv5888kfj7jmdh-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz.drv
| 4.0K    /gnu/store/b4zacwzx5lriwxrpr7y4wi1i3rl22ybx-inkscape-poppler-compat.patch
| 4.0K    /gnu/store/g46dzii7g1ffi7iz1mkqydkh5filn93j-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz.drv
| 4.0K    /gnu/store/jkpfxya83dzkyl42wawd8avvwvh1rjbv-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz.drv
| 4.0K    /gnu/store/ppnajjk1jmp59hmh5sy805drl5sfnqq1-inkscape.desktop
| 4.0K    /gnu/store/szdsqp9f75lf8n223994dgnzq0gynxkn-inkscape-1.1.1.tar.xz.drv
| 4.0K    /gnu/store/zzxliczm87l5l692sbja4md3nlm4kn98-inkscape-1.1.1.tar.xz.drv
| 8.0K    /gnu/store/0n9gsw2kpbs2affmdz5v8569inic47li-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz-builder
| 8.0K    /gnu/store/gzczswjnbjwishxdcjb38ff50ryz07y6-inkscape-1.2.1-builder
| 8.0K    /gnu/store/ldmc19hvi88gffrksh84clpgj4k35phx-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz-builder
| 8.0K    /gnu/store/piy8k5xdfy9lpisz3s539ga643f7lxwp-inkscape-1.1.1.tar.xz-builder
| 8.0K    /gnu/store/zgr855pyl4nq0wzbgvnls7y62y2hm03g-inkscape-1.2.1-builder
| 12K    /gnu/store/20051ywrcs9srgmc1yz3n7g39mawwj71-inkscape-1.2.1.drv
| 12K    /gnu/store/599w24wf1yc77qz98rdny3gl8hbwnk0v-inkscape-1.2.1.drv
| 12K    /gnu/store/5rm4gq898k7g1m2z8bfdyjlamh4hv94r-inkscape-1.1.1.drv
| 12K    /gnu/store/75hxh7536csa39ycl3lnfzp72n77640x-inkscape-1.1.1.drv
| 12K    /gnu/store/9mkpsshqb8f8bvag4dn6fyay83xxi89v-inkscape-1.2.1.drv
| 12K    /gnu/store/9saq1qq7c7knbpsnyxf2bnq316fzmjc7-inkscape-1.2.1.drv
| 12K    /gnu/store/bni54rrv8mc1i3i06a5va6kvvv1szkh7-inkscape-1.2.1.drv
| 12K    /gnu/store/kpxb5da4919c99npg7qpfa2dcb4mqi8h-inkscape-1.2.1.drv
| 12K    /gnu/store/mmqv80zr7wjh7cys12f4iqkhcmg58i5c-inkscape-1.2.1.drv
| 12K    /gnu/store/pa7hirai1r6l356xd12ldglgcp7z1x6q-inkscape-1.2.1.drv
| 12K    /gnu/store/rkkplpgzqri888zq4byznhf1adbrx07l-inkscape-1.2.1.drv
| 12K    /gnu/store/scqjnhcc1b2fyccy907wavh0maas1afh-inkscape-1.2.1.drv
| 16K    /gnu/store/fwgd2kvp9g7ag503rx5g1zblxq028wj0-inkscape-1.2.1-builder
| 16K    /gnu/store/hkhhjy304ma2kzchfr36qnpaf62iq9py-inkscape-1.2.1-builder
| 16K    /gnu/store/vjzh7h8r1cyxsqckymxa3z6gk3g5f4k1-inkscape-1.1.1-builder
| 16K    /gnu/store/xcnnj3vwj92n0pc82yn5rvhhkjwv51dp-inkscape-1.2.1-builder
| 16K    /gnu/store/xszjv85ywbvz33acvjhb08ajvrrh9skk-inkscape-1.2.1-builder
| 16K    /gnu/store/y5ack33xna7b3mcr2qlf53zklsyasrc5-inkscape-1.2.1-builder
| 42M    /gnu/store/i3y84nmk2xh4fh0922a6j23yhhzmw1jx-inkscape-1.2.1
| 43M    /gnu/store/43cqpzdzwhb8krc2lvxfp6xvkgqj2556-inkscape-1.2.1
| 46M    /gnu/store/fzmmjfm9lcw8y01iykj0j9p9v720b1f5-inkscape-1.2.1
| 47M    /gnu/store/rsg27zr24h6nf9spgidg9fnj4lq1sknv-inkscape-1.2.1
| 140M    /gnu/store/qp8msw5js3gdpdlq1r8nxz4frnzc39lh-inkscape-1.1.1
| 181M    /gnu/store/3a7a5i1f4c917vlnzyy9d68s55ijiq50-inkscape-1.2.1
`----

My system is currently using v1.2.1.

,----
| inkscape --version
`----

,----
| Inkscape 1.2.1 (9c6d41e410, 2022-07-14)
`----

I want to run v1.1.1 because I want to do some experiments to test the
performance of these two versions. Preferably, I want to run those two
versions at the same time. If that's not possible, at least I want to be
able to switch between those two versions. How to do this?

Re: Newbie: Run previous version of Inkscape that exists in /gnu/store

[Soren Stoutner via]

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I think the following is the information you are looking for:

"Each /package/ may specify a simple package name, such as guile, optionally followed by 
an at-sign and version number, such as guile@3.0.7 or simply guile@3.0. In the latter case, 
the newest version prefixed by 3.0 is selected.”

It comes from the documentation at https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Invoking-guix-package.html[1].  Admitedly, it is not easy to find if you don’t already know what you 
are looking for.

On Friday, June 2, 2023 11:48:45 AM MST Rodrigo Morales wrote:
> The /gnu/store of my system contains two versions (1.1.1 and 1.2.1) of
> Inkscape that are already built (see last two lines below)
> 
> ,----
> 
> | find /gnu/store -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -name '*inkscape*' -exec du
> 
> -hs {} + | sort -h
> `----
> 
> ,----
> 
> | 4.0K   
> | /gnu/store/500rmmh2b0m4abmhs3pv5888kfj7jmdh-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz.drv
> | 4.0K   
> | /gnu/store/b4zacwzx5lriwxrpr7y4wi1i3rl22ybx-inkscape-poppler-compat.patch
> | 4.0K   
> | /gnu/store/g46dzii7g1ffi7iz1mkqydkh5filn93j-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz.drv
> | 4.0K   
> | /gnu/store/jkpfxya83dzkyl42wawd8avvwvh1rjbv-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz.drv
> | 4.0K    /gnu/store/ppnajjk1jmp59hmh5sy805drl5sfnqq1-inkscape.desktop 4.0K
> |    /gnu/store/szdsqp9f75lf8n223994dgnzq0gynxkn-inkscape-1.1.1.tar.xz.drv
> | 4.0K   
> | /gnu/store/zzxliczm87l5l692sbja4md3nlm4kn98-inkscape-1.1.1.tar.xz.drv
> | 8.0K   
> | /gnu/store/0n9gsw2kpbs2affmdz5v8569inic47li-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz-builder
> | 8.0K   
> | /gnu/store/gzczswjnbjwishxdcjb38ff50ryz07y6-inkscape-1.2.1-builder 8.0K  
> | 
> | /gnu/store/ldmc19hvi88gffrksh84clpgj4k35phx-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz-builder
> | 8.0K   
> | /gnu/store/piy8k5xdfy9lpisz3s539ga643f7lxwp-inkscape-1.1.1.tar.xz-builder
> | 8.0K   
> | /gnu/store/zgr855pyl4nq0wzbgvnls7y62y2hm03g-inkscape-1.2.1-builder 12K   
> | /gnu/store/20051ywrcs9srgmc1yz3n7g39mawwj71-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K   
> | /gnu/store/599w24wf1yc77qz98rdny3gl8hbwnk0v-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K   
> | /gnu/store/5rm4gq898k7g1m2z8bfdyjlamh4hv94r-inkscape-1.1.1.drv 12K   
> | /gnu/store/75hxh7536csa39ycl3lnfzp72n77640x-inkscape-1.1.1.drv 12K   
> | /gnu/store/9mkpsshqb8f8bvag4dn6fyay83xxi89v-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K   
> | /gnu/store/9saq1qq7c7knbpsnyxf2bnq316fzmjc7-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K   
> | /gnu/store/bni54rrv8mc1i3i06a5va6kvvv1szkh7-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K   
> | /gnu/store/kpxb5da4919c99npg7qpfa2dcb4mqi8h-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K   
> | /gnu/store/mmqv80zr7wjh7cys12f4iqkhcmg58i5c-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K   
> | /gnu/store/pa7hirai1r6l356xd12ldglgcp7z1x6q-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K   
> | /gnu/store/rkkplpgzqri888zq4byznhf1adbrx07l-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K   
> | /gnu/store/scqjnhcc1b2fyccy907wavh0maas1afh-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 16K   
> | /gnu/store/fwgd2kvp9g7ag503rx5g1zblxq028wj0-inkscape-1.2.1-builder 16K   
> | /gnu/store/hkhhjy304ma2kzchfr36qnpaf62iq9py-inkscape-1.2.1-builder 16K   

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Re: Newbie: Run previous version of Inkscape that exists in /gnu/store

[宋文武]

Rodrigo Morales <moralesrodrigo1100@gmail.com> writes:

> [...]
> | 140M    /gnu/store/qp8msw5js3gdpdlq1r8nxz4frnzc39lh-inkscape-1.1.1
> | 181M    /gnu/store/3a7a5i1f4c917vlnzyy9d68s55ijiq50-inkscape-1.2.1
>
> I want to run v1.1.1 because I want to do some experiments to test the
> performance of these two versions. Preferably, I want to run those two
> versions at the same time. If that's not possible, at least I want to be
> able to switch between those two versions. How to do this?

Does run them by path from command line in a terminal emulator works?

 /gnu/store/qp8msw5js3gdpdlq1r8nxz4frnzc39lh-inkscape-1.1.1/bin/inkscape
 /gnu/store/3a7a5i1f4c917vlnzyy9d68s55ijiq50-inkscape-1.2.1/bin/inkscape

Re: Newbie: Run previous version of Inkscape that exists in /gnu/store

[Rodrigo Morales]

When I run Inkscape v1.2.1 using an absolute path, Inkscape is
successfully opened.

When I run Inkscape v1.1.1 using an absolute path, a window with a
button "Close" and a message "Inkscape encountered an internal error
and will close now" is opened and some messages are shown in the
terminal where I run the command. See [1] (I'm not pasting it here
because it is 198 lines long).

I thought this problem had to do with the content of
~/.config/inkscape and ~/.cache/inkscape since those folders might be
read at startup by those versions and those directories might not be
backward compatible, so I deleted those folders and I run v1.1.1 using
the absolute path again, but the same window was opened. See [2].

[1] http://web.archive.org/web/20230604174522/http://0x0.st/Hbg2.txt
[2] http://web.archive.org/web/20230604174551/http://0x0.st/Hbg_.txt

On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 at 03:39, 宋文武 <iyzsong@envs.net> wrote:
>
> Rodrigo Morales <moralesrodrigo1100@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > [...]
> > | 140M    /gnu/store/qp8msw5js3gdpdlq1r8nxz4frnzc39lh-inkscape-1.1.1
> > | 181M    /gnu/store/3a7a5i1f4c917vlnzyy9d68s55ijiq50-inkscape-1.2.1
> >
> > I want to run v1.1.1 because I want to do some experiments to test the
> > performance of these two versions. Preferably, I want to run those two
> > versions at the same time. If that's not possible, at least I want to be
> > able to switch between those two versions. How to do this?
>
> Does run them by path from command line in a terminal emulator works?
>
>  /gnu/store/qp8msw5js3gdpdlq1r8nxz4frnzc39lh-inkscape-1.1.1/bin/inkscape
>  /gnu/store/3a7a5i1f4c917vlnzyy9d68s55ijiq50-inkscape-1.2.1/bin/inkscape
>

Re: Newbie: Run previous version of Inkscape that exists in /gnu/store

[Rodrigo Morales]

> Each /package/ may specify a simple package name, such as guile,
> optionally followed by an at-sign and version number, such as
> guile@3.0.7 or simply guile@3.0. In the latter case, the newest
> version prefixed by 3.0 is selected.


I tried using that notation. However, `guix package -i' was not able to
install it.

,----
| guix package -i 'inkscape@1.1.1'
| echo "--- Exit code: $?"
`----

,----
| guix package: error: inkscape: package not found for version 1.1.1
| --- Exit code: 1
`----


> It comes from the documentation at
> <https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Invoking-guix-package.html>[1].
> Admitedly, it is not easy to find if you don’t already know what you
> are looking for.


I read some of the documentation that you shared and I learned that
`guix package -i' can be provided with absolute paths in
`/gnu/store'. By providing the full path of v1.1.1, I was able to
install it.

,----
| guix package -i /gnu/store/qp8msw5js3gdpdlq1r8nxz4frnzc39lh-inkscape-1.1.1
| echo "--- Exit code: $?"
`----

,----
| The following package will be installed:
|    inkscape 1.1.1
|
| --- Exit code: 0
`----

Because `inkscape' was installed using `guix package -i' then the binary
resides in ~/.guix-profile/bin/inkscape. However, I also have installed
`inkscape' using `guix home', so I removed `~/.guix-home' from `$PATH'
to make sure that my shell was not using the `inkscape' that has been
installed through `guix home'. See behavior below.

,----
| echo 'Before'
| which inkscape
| inkscape --version
| export PATH=$(echo $PATH | tr ':' '\n' | grep -v '\.guix-home' |
paste -sd ':')
| echo 'After'
| which inkscape
| inkscape --version
`----

,----
| Before
| /home/rdrg/.guix-home/profile/bin/inkscape
| Inkscape 1.2.1 (9c6d41e410, 2022-07-14)
| After
| /home/rdrg/.guix-profile/bin/inkscape
| Inkscape 1.1.1 (3bf5ae0d25, 2021-09-20)
`----

As you can see above, at this point, the binary `inkscape' is able to
print the version number. However, when I try to run Inkscape with no
arguments, a window with a button "Close" and a message "Inkscape
encountered an internal error and will close now" is opened and some
messages are shown in the terminal where I run the command. See [1] (I'm
not pasting it here because it is 198 lines long).

[1] <http://web.archive.org/web/20230604180504/http://0x0.st/HbgO.txt>

Am I missing something?

On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 22:31, Soren Stoutner via <help-guix@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> I think the following is the information you are looking for:
>
> "Each /package/ may specify a simple package name, such as guile, optionally followed by
> an at-sign and version number, such as guile@3.0.7 or simply guile@3.0. In the latter case,
> the newest version prefixed by 3.0 is selected.”
>
> It comes from the documentation at https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Invoking-guix-package.html[1].  Admitedly, it is not easy to find if you don’t already know what you
> are looking for.
>
> On Friday, June 2, 2023 11:48:45 AM MST Rodrigo Morales wrote:
> > The /gnu/store of my system contains two versions (1.1.1 and 1.2.1) of
> > Inkscape that are already built (see last two lines below)
> >
> > ,----
> >
> > | find /gnu/store -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -name '*inkscape*' -exec du
> >
> > -hs {} + | sort -h
> > `----
> >
> > ,----
> >
> > | 4.0K
> > | /gnu/store/500rmmh2b0m4abmhs3pv5888kfj7jmdh-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz.drv
> > | 4.0K
> > | /gnu/store/b4zacwzx5lriwxrpr7y4wi1i3rl22ybx-inkscape-poppler-compat.patch
> > | 4.0K
> > | /gnu/store/g46dzii7g1ffi7iz1mkqydkh5filn93j-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz.drv
> > | 4.0K
> > | /gnu/store/jkpfxya83dzkyl42wawd8avvwvh1rjbv-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz.drv
> > | 4.0K    /gnu/store/ppnajjk1jmp59hmh5sy805drl5sfnqq1-inkscape.desktop 4.0K
> > |    /gnu/store/szdsqp9f75lf8n223994dgnzq0gynxkn-inkscape-1.1.1.tar.xz.drv
> > | 4.0K
> > | /gnu/store/zzxliczm87l5l692sbja4md3nlm4kn98-inkscape-1.1.1.tar.xz.drv
> > | 8.0K
> > | /gnu/store/0n9gsw2kpbs2affmdz5v8569inic47li-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz-builder
> > | 8.0K
> > | /gnu/store/gzczswjnbjwishxdcjb38ff50ryz07y6-inkscape-1.2.1-builder 8.0K
> > |
> > | /gnu/store/ldmc19hvi88gffrksh84clpgj4k35phx-inkscape-1.2.1.tar.xz-builder
> > | 8.0K
> > | /gnu/store/piy8k5xdfy9lpisz3s539ga643f7lxwp-inkscape-1.1.1.tar.xz-builder
> > | 8.0K
> > | /gnu/store/zgr855pyl4nq0wzbgvnls7y62y2hm03g-inkscape-1.2.1-builder 12K
> > | /gnu/store/20051ywrcs9srgmc1yz3n7g39mawwj71-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K
> > | /gnu/store/599w24wf1yc77qz98rdny3gl8hbwnk0v-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K
> > | /gnu/store/5rm4gq898k7g1m2z8bfdyjlamh4hv94r-inkscape-1.1.1.drv 12K
> > | /gnu/store/75hxh7536csa39ycl3lnfzp72n77640x-inkscape-1.1.1.drv 12K
> > | /gnu/store/9mkpsshqb8f8bvag4dn6fyay83xxi89v-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K
> > | /gnu/store/9saq1qq7c7knbpsnyxf2bnq316fzmjc7-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K
> > | /gnu/store/bni54rrv8mc1i3i06a5va6kvvv1szkh7-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K
> > | /gnu/store/kpxb5da4919c99npg7qpfa2dcb4mqi8h-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K
> > | /gnu/store/mmqv80zr7wjh7cys12f4iqkhcmg58i5c-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K
> > | /gnu/store/pa7hirai1r6l356xd12ldglgcp7z1x6q-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K
> > | /gnu/store/rkkplpgzqri888zq4byznhf1adbrx07l-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 12K
> > | /gnu/store/scqjnhcc1b2fyccy907wavh0maas1afh-inkscape-1.2.1.drv 16K
> > | /gnu/store/fwgd2kvp9g7ag503rx5g1zblxq028wj0-inkscape-1.2.1-builder 16K
> > | /gnu/store/hkhhjy304ma2kzchfr36qnpaf62iq9py-inkscape-1.2.1-builder 16K

Re: Newbie: Run previous version of Inkscape that exists in /gnu/store

[Soren Stoutner via]

The official channels do not seem to have retained the information 
necessary to build Inkscape 1.1.1.

https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/inkscape.scm

You would likely need to use an older version of the SCM to build 1.1.1. 
  Perhaps something like this:

https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/inkscape.scm?id=12c9e59600e90206d8defcbe29e26f606390240a

Once you do get a SCM that can build 1.1.1, you might be interested in 
using `guix shell` to run them side-by-side without having the 
configuration file from one cause problems for the other.

https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node/Invoking-guix-shell.html

Something similar to the following two commands would likely do what you 
want.


guix shell --container --no-cwd inkspace@1.1.1 -- inkscape
guix shell --container --no-cwd inkscape@1.2.1 -- inkscape


If you are using a local SCM for the older version of Inkscape, your 
first command might look something more along the lines of:

guix shell --container --no-cwd /path/to/inkscape1.1.1.scm -- inkscape

---
Soren Stoutner
soren@stoutner.com
623-262-6169

On 2023-06-04 12:08, Rodrigo Morales wrote:
> I tried using that notation. However, `guix package -i' was not able to
> install it.
> 
> ,----
> | guix package -i 'inkscape@1.1.1'
> | echo "--- Exit code: $?"
> `----
> 
> ,----
> | guix package: error: inkscape: package not found for version 1.1.1
> | --- Exit code: 1
> `----