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From: Leo Prikler <leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>, 49329@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#49329] [PATCH 1/4] gnu: python2-renpy: Drop unused Ren'py sources.
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 11:53:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <794829194e7b95660ac164920bc62f68e14a0508.camel@student.tugraz.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86r1g5i7ai.fsf@gmail.com>

Hi simon,

Am Sonntag, den 11.07.2021, 10:28 +0200 schrieb zimoun:
> Hi Leo,
> 
> On Sat, 03 Jul 2021 at 10:35, Leo Prikler <
> leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at> wrote:
> 
> > I must admit, I haven't been following the Python 2 removal plan
> > too
> > closely.  Is it already time to move working leaf packages?
> 
> The Python EOL is January, 1rst 2020 [1].  So now, we are 1.5 years
> ahead, so yes it seems already time to cook a plan. :-)
> 
> However, there is no consensus about such plan. ;-)  Some related
> discussions:
I know, but to be fair, we aren't the only ones behind on the Python
removal.  Python 2 is very much a zombie at this point, still kept
alive by other (mostly dead, but some live) projects that people rely
on for various reasons.

> 2018-12: <https://yhetil.org/guix/20181226093812.GR2581@macbook41/>
> 2019-10: <
> https://yhetil.org/guix/CAJ3okZ33HsXxgVgK3XyVHvYUfDUrbcwBnOn7FC6=3AG_YvAUbQ@mail.gmail.com/
> >
> 2019-11: <http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/38420>  Failed attempt to
> cook something
> 2021-01: <https://yhetil.org/guix/86pn1pgf7z.fsf@gmail.com/>
> 
> From my understanding, the “implemented” plan is described by Maxim
> here:
> 
>    <https://yhetil.org/guix/87pn1oxv0m.fsf@gmail.com/>
Using this plan as a starting point, I think renpy counts as a non-
variant package relying on some python2-variant.

> I just want to point that it is less work to transfer a functional
> and
> supported by upstream package than to transfer a package starting to
> have issues.  Other said, I think it is easier to find motivation to
> do
> the transfer for this previous case than to do some “janitor” work
> later.  For what my opinion is worth. :-)
Fair enough, I could open up a merge request to have renpy in Guix Past
"ahead of time", but OTOH I feel like `guix time-machine` offers
similar benefits.  If we're going to *mirror* python packages, because
they will soon be broken, I think it would also be a good idea to start
from python2 instead of leaf packages.

Regards,
Leo





  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-11  9:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-02 12:39 [bug#49329] [PATCH 00/??] Improve Ren'py package Leo Prikler
2021-07-02 13:58 ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 1/4] gnu: python2-renpy: Drop unused Ren'py sources Leo Prikler
2021-07-02 13:58   ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 2/4] gnu: python2-renpy: Update description Leo Prikler
2021-07-02 13:58   ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 3/4] gnu: python2-renpy: Correct inputs Leo Prikler
2021-07-02 13:58   ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 4/4] gnu: renpy: " Leo Prikler
2021-07-03  7:50   ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 1/4] gnu: python2-renpy: Drop unused Ren'py sources zimoun
2021-07-03  8:35     ` Leo Prikler
2021-07-11  3:50       ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 00/??] Improve Ren'py package Chris Marusich
2021-07-11  8:28       ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 1/4] gnu: python2-renpy: Drop unused Ren'py sources zimoun
2021-07-11  9:53         ` Leo Prikler [this message]
2021-07-15  6:47           ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 00/??] Improve Ren'py package Chris Marusich
2021-07-03  9:28 ` [bug#49329] [PATCH v2 1/5] gnu: python2-renpy: Drop unused Ren'py sources Leo Prikler
2021-07-03  9:28   ` [bug#49329] [PATCH v2 2/5] gnu: python2-renpy: Update description Leo Prikler
2021-07-11  4:53     ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 00/??] Improve Ren'py package Chris Marusich
2021-07-11  7:09       ` Leo Prikler
2021-07-15  6:48         ` Chris Marusich
2021-07-03  9:28   ` [bug#49329] [PATCH v2 3/5] gnu: python2-renpy: Correct inputs Leo Prikler
2021-07-11  4:55     ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 00/??] Improve Ren'py package Chris Marusich
2021-07-03  9:28   ` [bug#49329] [PATCH v2 4/5] gnu: renpy: Correct inputs Leo Prikler
2021-07-11  4:37     ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 00/??] Improve Ren'py package Chris Marusich
2021-07-11  6:58       ` Leo Prikler
2021-07-03  9:28   ` [bug#49329] [PATCH v2 5/5] gnu: Add python-pygame-sdl2 Leo Prikler
2021-07-11  4:44     ` [bug#49329] [PATCH 00/??] Improve Ren'py package Chris Marusich
2021-07-11  7:00       ` Leo Prikler
2021-07-15  7:21         ` Chris Marusich
2021-07-15 11:46           ` bug#49329: " Leo Prikler
2021-07-11  4:52   ` [bug#49329] " Chris Marusich
2021-07-11  7:03     ` Leo Prikler
2021-07-15  7:22       ` Chris Marusich

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